We never hit the front because Garlett and Gibbs couldn't kick straight. Had they kicked one of those two goals to put us in front, one of two things would have happened.
1. We would have had some belief that we could win and gone on with it instead of, 'why do we bother doing the hard work if they can't finish it off from 30 metres out', or
2. Collingwood wold have found another gear and beaten us anyway.

Hitting the front after playing crap footy and the other team doing everything they can but not being able to shake us off is an enormous confidence booster. Sloppy finishing is morale sapping downfield.

We could have won.
Simple as that.

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I agree. Warnocks shot (i think on half time should also have been put thru)

But.. If they had have kicked straight it would have been over pretty quickly.

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Still not sold on us.

I know its massively negative to say this, but we really haven't beaten ANYONE.
And seeing the Roos knock off the Bulldogs yesterday just solidified that for me.

Should not have lost to West Coast, and definitely should not have lost to the Bulldogs.
We wont finish top 4 now. WCE and Hawks both have more favorable draws.

There was a lot of fluff written about us being contenders about 4 weeks back. Media love was just to sell papers.
We bully the weak teams and then fall short against the challengers. We really need to win the next 4 to believe we have improved significantly. I'd say we'd also lose to the saints now if we had to play them.

I prefer Duigan's summary for public consumption compared to Mitch and Carrots.
It is not that I disagree with Mitch and Carrots but it gives the perception that near enough is good enough. Internally the club can take a lot out of that game but I would prefer it stayed within the club.

Fev thinks we can win the flag, and given how relevant he suddenly is again we should take heed.

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I'm surprise he didn't say he thinks we can win the flag IF we recruit a full forward, like maybe.....Fev ?

Aren't you full of negatives. we should give up supporting for the year l guess. We need more carlton supporters like you. So we beaten Saints, Lost to Geelong after siren, lost to Pies by 28 and 19pts, but we shit? ok. It doesn't really matter what we do in H&A, its what we do in finals that counts.

By the way can't judge each game the same. Bulldogs were up for our game, got a big head and werent pumped for North and lose. Same with WCE. WCE lost aswell. In finals, both teams are up for the game generally.

We played the all mighty Pies, just about full strength with out Dawes.out of form didak and Heath Shaw who won't play again this season, unless they risk him in finals, which l doubt. We had Jamo, Waite, Carrazzo and the talking carlton player of the decade Jordan Russell out. That is 4 of our top 12 players out..

With those players in, Cloke wouldn't be able to push Jamo around, Henderson would be playing CHB. Watson wouldn't of played and committed a couple costly turnovers. Waite would be up forward and our key forwards wouldn't be Eddie Betts or Bret Thornton. Carrazo would of tagged Daisy or Leon in backline and Jordan Russell would of done his thing.

Collingwood aren't that great, they should of lost to Saints with extra time in the grand final, they got lucky having a replay final, but to sit there during the first game they played against the blues this year and the game on Saturday and think we can't beat them in finals, then you obviously have no faith. If you listen to the media, Pies are unbeatable. But, they are not!!!

There will be nothing better than beating them in finals.

Until we can beat a good side like Cats, Pies, Hawks etc then we are no better than a North Melbourne i.e. We are just making up the numbers.

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Seriously, besides the Cats and the Pies, the remaining 15 Teams are just making up numbers !!!

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You've got your north melbourne's, your fremantles, your tigers...your demons...

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So if Warnock wasn't seriously concussed and missed that goal 10m out, we would of beaten Cats!!!!!!!!!!!! So if he kicks it, we are up there with the best, he misses, we lose by two points and we not up there with the best. Logical thinking guys.

We lost to Pies by 28 and 19pts.

They are the two best teams in the comp and you still talk down Carlton as a crap team. Its 2011, a new year.

Check our success against the current top 8. It is not that good. Clayman is right we need to start beating, yes winning, not just getting close before we can say we are contenders.

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I wouldn't compare us to North, its not like we lose by 15 goals every time we play a top side.

We hang a lot tougher in games now, we made the 2nd quarter a scrap on Saturday and worked our way back into it.

We aren't a premiership side yet, unless we have everything going our way, we haven't learnt to cope with adversity and be the best. We are better now, but we aren't as advanced as we hoped we were a month ago.

I think its pretty clear that Collingwood had more 'coulda woulda shoulda' in the match - yes we missed a few but they missed more. We pushed but weren't good enough. I dont think you can say 2 missed shots on goal was relevant at the end of the day.

In more important news I've welcomed my third kiddy to the world today! GO ZOE!

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Congratulations Molsey!

And may Zoe see, oh, 40 Carlton flags in her life.

Actually many, many more; we all want her to be around til maybe 2100.

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BEST LAUGH I HAVE HAD FOR WEEKS

Congrats molsey



Are you the same guy that came into the Collingwood match thread, all doom and gloom, predicting a 70 point loss?

How'd that work out?

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Look I agree that i'm being over negative.
And if the pies took their early chances it could easily have been 70 points.
We had our misses, not not half as many as they did. Don't let the score line fool you.

Well done Molsey! Another Blue

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