Agree with this 100%. Austin is not up to AFL standard and will be delisted in October.

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Can only comment on the pies game but imo, watson was disappointing yesterday. Mainly poor decision making and an unwillingness to utilise his main weapon ie long kicking. The turnovers from kickouts also didnt help

Having said that though, it was a very tough ask for him to come in and play well yesterday - imo, the MC should either have brought him in a few weeks earlier (ie give him a proper run to pick up the pace of the game before you hit the big games against pies/Essendon*) OR gone into the game with either austin/bower on field (ie more experienced players)

I think it is fair to say he did at TAC level and now he is coming to terms with playing against stronger and more talented (at this time) men.

How many 19yr old 3 game vets have you known to be perfect in the AFL during your lengthy viewing career?

How was Kennedy going at the same time? Or Cloke or Dawes?

Regards Cazzesman

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Yup.........

early Dawes was pretty average........!


kindest regards tomi









i'm just glad we didn't reveal our "hand" yesterday.........!

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If Austin can't get a game with Jamo, Waite, White, Setanta out injured and Bower underdone and Watson in so-so VFL form - then I'd say his papers have been stamped.

I think Austin should have played against the Bulldogs instead of Bower. Not because I think it would have made a huge difference to the result - or that I rate him more highly than Bower (I don't) - but because (1) he's match-fit and in solid VFL form; (2) he deserved another chance (in the circumstances, I didn't think his performance in the WCE game was as bad as some have suggested); (3) unlike Bower, he has shown he can play at both ends of the ground; and (4) it would have allowed Bower to have a full game in the VFL last week to find some fitness and confidence (which could have saved us from using him the Sub yesterday - ie. he could have started in defence and either Austin or Watson been the Sub).

The management of Austin, Bower & Watson has got me very confused at the moment...

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Thanks Cazz. Lets hope he commences to carve out a career down the same road as these three. Just read Rhino's post. If the theme of his post is true then we should be focussing on eradicating this out of Watson's approach before it's too late.

Pies "inaccurate kicking" is a bit of a myth.

They had 6 rushed behinds and we had 1. So "kicking" for goal was 13-14 to 11-12. And we hit the post 6 times, Collingwood 2.

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Oh, and 3 times those points resulted in goals from the kick-in anyway.

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Predictable, should make that your signature.

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Just re-watched the 1st quarter.

A combination of kicking under pressure, kicking to a man who is standing still, being outnumbered at the contest and just bad kicks resulted in 7 Carlton kicks being marked by Collingwood players.
This is only the 1st quarter and there were no Collingwood kicks being marked by Carlton players.

walker - reid HB (position where the ball was kicked from)
walker - davis HF
curnow - thomas C
twomey - toovey HB
robinson - reid HF
watson - thomas FB
walker - pendlebury HB

Also noticed at bounces, there would be at 1 Collingwood player who'd just plant himself on their defensive side just waiting for the Carlton player's to knock it towards goal; the only player being near the ball: a Collingwood player.

2nd Quarter was 3 each

simpson - davis FB
garlett - o'brien HB
warnock - reid HF

rounds - laidler HB
thomas - joseph HB
sidebottom - joseph HB

+1.

The comments of some on here that Austin had his chance vs WCE are just absurd.
Having a look at the stats on the AFL website for him in the game:
8 possessions (100% efficiency), 4 contested, 1 clanger, 2 marks (1 contested), 1 inside 50, 2 rebound 50, 4 tackles, 7 1%ers

If that's a bad game, from a guy who hadn't played since 2009 (due mainly to injury), then I'll go he.

Watson yesterday:
10 possessions (70%), 4 contested, 2 clangers, 1 mark, 2 rebound 50, 1 tackle, 3 1%ers
(To my knowledge, kick-ins aren't included and this was probably the most notable area in which Watson was shown up yesterday - in my view he was probably selected ahead of Austin for this aspect of his game and, unfortunately, he was a liability)

I'm not saying that Austin is a better long-term prospect than Watson, but he deserves fairer treatment. If there's any consistency about the MC, Watson has to go cos on the stats above, he was even 'worse' than Austin a couple of weeks ago.

Bower looked good when he came on - must start next week's game.

3rd Quarter
4-0

gibbs - thomas C
scotland - ball HB
robinson - tarrant HF
duigan - o'brien HF

Austin needs to stay on our list and more importantly needs to be given a better opportunity than current. If he gets delisted on current opportunities and more importantly on our KP depth, than bugger me I've missed something again.

agree - even if austin's papers have been stamped, he should still be looked at as a a player to cover injuries.

Unfortunately for us, Injury/underdone player management is something that Ratten/the MC have consistently gotten wrong over the past few years.

http://aflcommunityclub.com.au/index.php?id=384

Very interesting video on kick-ins and the options available other than to bomb it long. Have sound on.

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Good.I hope he gets another crack next week coz i reckon he has a future.A couple of hiccups along the way wont hurt.

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great calls re player management by the MC..

Watson, Austin and Bower....baffling stuff !

Ditto Hendo...our intended CHF for the next decade playing FB when we can't find a mark in the fwd 50...this after hendo was rushed back in rd 3 when he was clearly not ready !

I said Greg Swann should be in the front office like every other CEO in the comp.Adminisrators meddling in the footy team is a recipe for disaster.Has been since the game began and always will be.

And as questioning my footy knowledge is a bit rich coming from you Kouta..............check some of the stuff you have blurted out over the years.

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+1

Shame the MC as paid employees of a company limited by guarantee will not answer queries raised by their bosses - their shareholders being the members of the club. Add Ellard to the list who has barely had a touch for the past month and Tuohy's demotion to Livo's lot.

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