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Some thoughts from the Tiger faithful on our old mate Grigga
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The white flag was officially posted today just before the first bounce, Grigg on Judd. Judd burrows in, gets the ball, gives it off gets it back, goal. Grigg has no idea how to get his own ball and should never, ever be put in the middle again, even on rotations, just should never be there. What were the Tigers thinking getting this bloke?

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I've seen marshmallows harder than this bloke. I am yet to see him put his body on the line or win a genuine contested possession. his kicking is also worse than what was feared.

Carlton are ahead on this one, even with Collins not getting a game.

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Matthew Dundas shows more grunt then this bloke, has been crap for 6 weeks now, whats next rewarded with another 50 games before someone notices this bloke does nothing to add to this team.

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HE can be handy at times, but he certainly plays BRUISE-FREE football..

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Doesn't chase, refuses to tackle, absolutely no second efforts, sh!thouse disposal. My god, what were we thinking. Gimme back andy collins any day.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:47 am 
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still pissed

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ahhhh dat's football son!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:10 am 
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Just wanted to be the 103rd reply in this thread.

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Hard to take much out of that, outside of the enjoyment flogging Richmond always brings.

In reality, they were terrible. Possibly the worst we've played all season. Defensive pressure was non existant, their big 3 midfielders in Cotchin, Martin and Foley did not get a clearance between them for the first 3 quarters, no real attempt to man up (lost count of players by themselves). Without turning this into TalkingRichmond, their gameplan today reminded me of Matthew Knights with Essendon*. At least by implementing that style of play at Richmond, they have decent midfielders who can break the lines, like Martin, and they've got a decent forward line to kick to. Their defence minus McGuane was terrible. You could easily pinpoint 5-6 players who are clearly not AFL standard.

The main highlight for me today was Hendo's performance on Riewoldt. Don't let the junk time goals fool you. Hendo gave him a bath, ran off him with ease, and I look forward to him continuing with Hall next week.

Surely you have to start bandying Mitch Robinson's name for All-Australian selection too. Won't ever happen, as he's not fashionable enough, but geez, take out his game as the sub, and he's averaging close to 30 touches a game, and kicking a lot more goals than others considered for it. In a just world, he gets the 3 votes from todays game. Won't happen, CJ wasn't far off it either.

Arguably Bryce Gibbs' best game for the club today. Never seen such a willingness to take on the game from him as he showed today. Played on at every opportunity, set up many goals. That boot was damaging today.

I think Eddies' performance today is as good as any an example to show that you can't measure his performance by scoreboard output. I think 4 of his goals were scored from <5m? Could have had another too, that one in the opening quarter was a dodgy decision that went against him.

Defence looked better with Laidler in it. I don't think we have another defender who is prepared to push up as high as he does. Does it well.

At this stage, think ThePsych has nailed the selections for next week.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:22 am 
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Smurph wrote:
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Grigg can go and get !@#$%&! I had high hopes for Grigg when he was at Carlton, now he is the enemy and there is no respect for that traitor


You had high hopes? He is a woeful player and once again proved it today. Worst kick in the AFL... If Andrew Collins never plays another game for Carlton it is still a win for Carlton.... I love seeing him in a Tigers guernsey because it makes me laugh!!!!!


When Grigg was younger at Carlton I think we all saw "talent" there and could of possibly turned into a solid player. But he sooked that Ratten didn't give him enough games and wanted to play in a shit team to get games. Collins has also been terrible in the games he played for us this year, but hopefully next season he can turn it around


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:31 am 
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From The Hun by Michael Horan

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Enjoying the return from suspension of Mitch Robinson to add to the imposing engineroom of Chris Judd, Marc Murphy, Andrew Carrazzo, Heath Scotland and Kade Simpson, the Blues pummelled the Tigers 66-33 in clearances and a thumping 22-9 at the centre bounce.



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2. Do the really get paid :?:, or do they write in the HUN for a hobby 'cos they like footy & are mates with the editor :?:

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:39 am 
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Geez Grigg was soely missed. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

No right foot, no left foot.
No left hand No right hand.

Damn good thrower though :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

To the Grigga lovers.......Do you miss him now? :lol: :lol: :lol: I couldn't give a rats arse if you do.

I love 100 point wins against the Tiggers!!!!!!!! Should be more of them.



AGREED. Said last year that he is a dud. he would add nothing at all to this Carlton side. Enjoy your time at Coburg in the next few years

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:58 am 
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Enjoy your time at Coburg in the next few years


Sadly for Richmond he's still one of their better midfielders.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:21 am 
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Spirit of Carlton wrote:
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Wow. Is that necessary? Take a good hard look at yourself.

You have bagged Carlton players like every other person here. Do not put yourself on a high horse because like the rest of us you do not deserve it.


Sorry about that SOC if that upsets you. I am not bagging Carlton players so get your facts right before becoming the aggressor.

I watched the game today with an ex carlton player and we both agreed that if they haven't played in a premiership for us (like ex Carltonians McConville, Jezza, Sheldon, Marcou...you get it) or haven't served us with dignity...and want to leave us well !@#$%& em.

Grigg told the club he was signing before he went on hoilidays to Bali or Thailand..., then went on holidays and then his manager shafted usteelling the club he had a desire to leave the club because Richmond was better....and he had made that decision before the bullshit. Just like your bullshit post, ther was no substance to his comment either.

Well !@#$%& him....and I don't care if he's your relative.

And as far as I'm concerend, I express the feelings of many Carlton fans, and there's no issue of me bagging Carlton players, so stop making up bullshit stories about me bagging Carlton players... I'm bagging an ex Carlton player who did nothing for our club other than not wanting to be here....so where's your spirit in your attack of me and my obvious position?

Oh yeah, if you are related to Griigg, I understand where you sit....and say hi to your brother if that's the case....not from me though.

If you don't get it....I respect Campo despite him leaving....he helped us win a flag. Your mate Grigg, the turncoat has done nothing for my club other than bring bad publicity to my club. You should be appreciative of my position...if you understand where I and many like me are coming from.

So why stick up for him?

And please get off my case for not liking anything he has done for my club and for being so Carlton centric with my ideals....AFAIC his actions are not and were not in the 'Spirit of Carlton' ....so I repeat !@#$%& him..and I don't give a hoot about him as a Richmond player...he's Balme's mate AFAIC.

Most important...get off my case, and get your facts right.



Well then bondi.

Please provide me with a summary of all your posts about Eddie Betts?

I do not agree with your assessment of Grigg, it is quite disgusting. Grigg is a past Carlton player. He has represented OUR club with the mighty CFC emblem. More than most of us.

I remember you criticising players like Betts, quite severely in the past.

You were as bad as anyone.

Do not pretend to be an angel.

You are not an angel.

Lets be fair dinkum shall we?

So do not heap crap on someone like grigg and at the same time pretend to be an angel.

You should not be allowed to get away with that. Simple as that.



What a load of rubbish. You love telling stories?

Who do you think you are telling me to put a summary of my Betts posts for you?
What an idiotic command. Get off your high horse.

And what did you find "disgusting" about my comments on Grigg? He made no impact, he left the club, his disposal was awful, and we don't miss him at all. That's the gist of the post. What's disgusting about that?

Betts was out of form ...was it 2 years ago?, and I like many other posters in the Betts thread had the same opinion that he didn't desreve his spot ecause he was badly out of form. Everyone knew he was out of form. WTF are you on about? Did I say something about his mother? His race? I've met Betsy, I love Bettsy, I employ Bettsy's relatives too. We all thought he was out of form.

When did I comment on Betts? 2 years ago. FFS...You call my comments disgusting, and you accuse me of acting all innocent...accusations you don't prove... you are a dead set meglomaniac. Clutching for straws...no...you make it your life's work to make a summary of my Betts posts.
I know I'm a Carlton nut but I do not degrade players in the Dark Navy Blue, nor ex premiership players who have gone to another club. Yes, I'm still sore about Hamill who was a hero of mine in '99.

Grigg isn't a Carlton player...check the replay.

And last year Jamison I thought was also badly out of form and not in good physical condition, and I said, like many others that he didn't deserve to be selected ahead of a few in the Ants, and finally I have also said that McLean was looking too slow at AFL level. Now I apologised for making an analogy of Brock which I wasn't asked to apologise for, some found it funny. I was remorseful, because he's still is a Carlton player and may come good and has something to offer whilst he's on our list.

That's all normal stuff. I don't say that they are idiots, fools, girls, nor do I discuss their mother or call them shielas...or whatever stories are going on between your ears reagrding me.

This is what we do on TC: we analyse, critique and form an opinion....and as far as the opposition are concerned...they are just that...the opposition. Grigg is the opposition.

Grigg is a turncoat. Basically he's cost us pick 17 or 19 whatever it was. We got nothing like pick 19 in return. He didn't give us a chance to trade. He just decided to leave the club. What sort of a servant of the club was he? And do you think Grigg played well yesterday, and I was wrong with my assessment? Tell me why I'm wrong. Why don't you say something about his opponent's failure to curb him if that's the case. Give us some substance instead of accusations.

I think I was right and I loved the fact we did not allow Grigg to have a good day against us.
You know and everyone knows he would have loved to stick it right up all of us in the Dark Navy Blue.
Grigg has mates at Carlton but he has no love for Carlton...just memories. Point is he's not a Carltonian anymore, and he did not make an impact for the Dark Navy Blue in the short time he was at Princes Park.

Have a read of other posters' feelings of Grigg, listen to the 1000's of Carlton fans who are disappointed in him and the way he departed...I'm not alone. There's nothing digusting in it...that's footy.

The Tigers are Carlton's old foe, the enemy if you like. :fight: I love thrashing the Tigers and everyone in Black and Yellow.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:34 am 
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A few observations from yesterday's game:

Great comeback by the Blues after last week's insipid display but seriously, apart from GC (maybe!!) who else would you rather play to get back into form than the limp Tigers??

Robbo - surely this guy has won over any doubters, he is now a quality midfielder whose hard at it attack on the ball is just what we needed and missed last week and whose skills tend to get overlooked because he is so uncompromising. And he will continue to improve!!

Laidler - apart from Jammo, this guy may be the most important component of our defensive setup. He is an absolute gem and I still can't believe our luck getting him from Geelong for peanuts. (Would have come in handy for them last night!!).

Juddie - The Great Man. Enough said.

206 - I still can't work this guy out. Plays some absolute shockers where he has no impact on the game apart from the centre bounces and yet my gut tells me when (if) he eventually does "click" he could turn into the dominant ruckman not only in our team but maybe in the AFL. Was very good against the Tigers so hopefully he can build on that in the weeks to come.

Waite - If he can clunk them like he did against the Tiges we will have an absolute weapon. He is a nightmare matchup for any defence because of his height and athleticism. Just hope he stays healthy and doesn't incur the wrath of the umpires for the rest of the year.

Hendo - He will be very good wherever they play him in the future but for now defence may be his thing. Really feel for him because he was having a ripper pre season until he got injured (I remember Ratts singling him out) and really feel the sky is the limit once he gets a full preseason under his belt.

Bower - I know he didn't play yesterday but this guy in my opinion has been the most disappointing player on our list. I had such high expectations at the start of the year and now he is battling to get a game with the Bullants. (Yes I know that's an exaggeration). Come on Paul, we all know how good you can be. Time to start producing son.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:35 am 
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I'd like to know why he didn't get a free kick when he brickwalled and wrapped up that bloke, (#32), in the middle. #32 had already got around one Carlton player then got "Robbo'd". Ball up. Earlier Tuohy had been wrapped up a split second after taking possession, driven into the ground then goes for holding the ball. WTF?

I'm not bitter, (hard to be after 103pt win), just trying to understand the rules of the game.



I have been following the game for 40 years, and the current interpretation of holding the ball has got me stuffed, and I'm not just talking about the Robbo or Tuohey incidents, I am seeing it week in week out in every game I watch, the rule has become so inconsistent that it is now a raffle and you never know what is going to be paid and what isn't.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:38 am 
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Hey SOC, I just read a few posts above mine sharing similar sentiments to mine towards Grigg.
Geez. I hope you don't put them through the ringer too.
Face it, we are Carlton and Grigg is not.

You might want to go over to Tigerland if you want to continue with a few fights with some Grigg haters.

I prefer you didn't.
We are all on the same side over here. We love Carlton. Period.

Enjoy the victory....103 points...against a Black n Yellow rabble.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:39 am 
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Well the combination is almost right - White and Thoughy out.

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Thornton playing every week like his last until Jamo returns.


Why Touhey? He is going OK.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:55 am 
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Well the combination is almost right - White and Thoughy out.

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Thornton playing every week like his last until Jamo returns.


Why Touhey? He is going OK.


Need to keep persisting with him. Fills a vital role no one else can. Played a very good defensive role yesterday on King. When he finds the right balance between defence and attack he wil be a star. Just needs time and experience. Big piece in the premiership puzzle!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:11 am 
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I seriously don't get the arguing over Grigg, who cares if he is gone he was a fringe player at best when he was at Carlton and would not get a game in our best 22, if he truly believed that he wasn't getting a fair go then that attitude is not required at the club as it shows he wasn't prepared to do the hard work to work on his game and get better.

I am sure the coaching panel would have told him what was required, our slogan this year is "NO PASSENGERS" and it appears that the list have worked hard to make that slogan a reality and there is no room for someone who does not want to put the work in, so it is better for all concerned that he left as we don't need an attitude like that at the club as it can be poisonous to others on the list.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:19 am 
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What a load of rubbish. You love telling stories?

Who do you think you are telling me to put a summary of my Betts posts for you?
What an idiotic command. Get off your high horse.

And what did you find "disgusting" about my comments on Grigg? He made no impact, he left the club, his disposal was awful, and we don't miss him at all. That's the gist of the post. What's disgusting about that?

Betts was out of form ...was it 2 years ago?, and I like many other posters in the Betts thread had the same opinion that he didn't desreve his spot ecause he was badly out of form. Everyone knew he was out of form. WTF are you on about? Did I say something about his mother? His race? I've met Betsy, I love Bettsy, I employ Bettsy's relatives too. We all thought he was out of form.

When did I comment on Betts? 2 years ago. FFS...You call my comments disgusting, and you accuse me of acting all innocent...accusations you don't prove... you are a dead set meglomaniac. Clutching for straws...no...you make it your life's work to make a summary of my Betts posts.
I know I'm a Carlton nut but I do not degrade players in the Dark Navy Blue, nor ex premiership players who have gone to another club. Yes, I'm still sore about Hamill who was a hero of mine in '99.

Grigg isn't a Carlton player...check the replay.

And last year Jamison I thought was also badly out of form and not in good physical condition, and I said, like many others that he didn't deserve to be selected ahead of a few in the Ants, and finally I have also said that McLean was looking too slow at AFL level. Now I apologised for making an analogy of Brock which I wasn't asked to apologise for, some found it funny. I was remorseful, because he's still is a Carlton player and may come good and has something to offer whilst he's on our list.

That's all normal stuff. I don't say that they are idiots, fools, girls, nor do I discuss their mother or call them shielas...or whatever stories are going on between your ears reagrding me.

This is what we do on TC: we analyse, critique and form an opinion....and as far as the opposition are concerned...they are just that...the opposition. Grigg is the opposition.

Grigg is a turncoat. Basically he's cost us pick 17 or 19 whatever it was. We got nothing like pick 19 in return. He didn't give us a chance to trade. He just decided to leave the club. What sort of a servant of the club was he? And do you think Grigg played well yesterday, and I was wrong with my assessment? Tell me why I'm wrong. Why don't you say something about his opponent's failure to curb him if that's the case. Give us some substance instead of accusations.

I think I was right and I loved the fact we did not allow Grigg to have a good day against us.
You know and everyone knows he would have loved to stick it right up all of us in the Dark Navy Blue.
Grigg has mates at Carlton but he has no love for Carlton...just memories. Point is he's not a Carltonian anymore, and he did not make an impact for the Dark Navy Blue in the short time he was at Princes Park.

Have a read of other posters' feelings of Grigg, listen to the 1000's of Carlton fans who are disappointed in him and the way he departed...I'm not alone. There's nothing digusting in it...that's footy.

The Tigers are Carlton's old foe, the enemy if you like. :fight: I love thrashing the Tigers and everyone in Black and Yellow.

GO BLUEBAGGERS. :thumbsup:


Is there any danger you can reply to someone having a go at you without writing the extended version of War & Peace, and subsequently boring people into submission?

All you're doing is proving what I've pointed out, what SoC has pointed out, what dane has pointed out, that its all about you, you're utterly obsessed with proving yourself ahead of other posters as the best Carlton supporter, the fairest Carlton supporter, the most intelligent Carlton supporter, the most supportive Carlton supporter, and clearly have no qualms coming off as a massive hypocrite in doing so.

Your post on Grigg wasn't far off the one I took umbrage to when you had a go at Brock McLean earlier this year.

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Ratts' fiance on TFS.

Punching above his weight, that's for sure :clap:

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Anyone seen ryan2000 ?

Probably still getting ovet losing 30k on the Tiges after he said he was going to "load up" on them.


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Sorry about that ... just checked the post and it was only gunna be a $30 "load up" ....

Seriously why would you bother ?


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