Spot on.

We have a major deficiency in height

Warnock and Henderson lack mongrel, hardness, intensity.

Waite, Jamo, Kreuz is it.

How much better would we be if we had a half decent tall like McPharlin, just to pull a name out of nowhere. We're one decent tall short, pardon the pun

Of course you're flabbergasted. The same reason why you can't see the positives out of that are the same reason you change your username so often to mask people laughing at your regular kneejerk contributions, of which you change your story on two weeks later anyway.

Austin's game, regardless of the specifics or opinions, we've done that experiment in round 14. The last two seasons, that would have been done around rd. 18-22. We picked him over Bower today, and to a lesser extent, rushing back Laidler, White or Waite. It was a fair show of faith. If we're fair dinkum, we give him another go at it next week too.

Lets not forget that there's list management to consider. He's one that would probably be considered in the gun, and we've done/in the process of conducting our due dilligence here, which of course would bring about a "BUT HE WAS NEVER GIVEN A GO. SACK HUGHES" response.

A swallow, a summer does not make, my dear boy.



"Hi, I'm Matthew Kreuzer"?



So if we have a lack of quality talls, and you've just given reasons as to why you think Thornton, Bower, Warnock, Henderson aren't great, why are you debating the merit of Austin being given a game today? Your opinions are contradictory to say the least.

Thornton's role hasn't been based primarily on playing one out on a forward for at least a couple of seasons now. You might as well criticize Betts for his pack marking..

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What's the prognosis on Jamo - is he out for a while?

Not our day today.

Big week on the track next week to sort the wheat from the chaff.

We just looked flat and tired to me from the first bounce today. How is the training load at the moment?

There are worse things than losing a game at this time of year. Put it in the bank and smash them if they make it to the second round of finals.

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Left wing moralists
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They shit me no end

There is a good chance we will play them in finals. Straight set exit again?

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THUD.... Back to reality.

We are so far away fro coll, haw, and geelong it's not funny. When they injured or rested players they don't miss a beat and look what happened to us today.

Soft, behind the ball and lost.

Those who think thorton, and houlihan are still in our best 22 need to think again. They pay like we used to play and are no part of our team....

Mind you they weren't the only bad players today.

I frequent those hot springs regularly.......and i tell you now; you come out so relaxed and lethargic that its difficult to drive home.

I was wondering if it may affect the players this week.

Probably drawing a long bow , but you never know.

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So what were your positives? Anything?

I thought Ratts should be congratulated for being proactive and innovative in his coaching in the last quarter. Just saw on the replay, he started Garlett at the centre bounce to start the quarter. Haven't seen that trick pulled out yet.

He's come a long way from the days of "Give it to Judd, bomb it long to Fev, if all else fails...Waite forward."

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This, exactly

I couldn't believe how much scragging, holding, pushing, obstructing, chopping of the arms etc etc the Eagles do at each contest... And get away with. It was quite staggering. We won the free kick count by a mile but should have and quite easily could have had about 15 more.

First things first: Carrazzo has to go. I've had enough of him. Tries hard, competes hard, does a job most weeks, but doesn't do enough damage. O'Keffee should be given his spot in the medium term. Whether or not he's up to it will be determined in due course. One thing we'll get from Rhys is much, much better disposal when he does have the ball.

Warnock wasn't great today, there's no shame in that. Cox is a class ruckman and played a top game. Where we let Warnock down as a team is in marking contests following kick outs. A lot of people around me were lamenting Warnock's work in those contested marking situations, thinking his man was constantly outpointing him. What he was contending with, then Austin later, and Henderson, Walker and whoever else earlier, was the Eagles superb use of the third man up. Warnock, or the others, would wrestle with their immediate opponent, only for one of the other Eagle talls to jump up and over and grab the mark.

The match was lost at selection. Whether it be through injuries or omissions, the match ups were wrong and rightfully exploited by a slick Eagles side who deserved to win. Add in Waite, Hampson, Laidler, Robinson, Curnow, Duigan and we're a much stronger, versatile and stable outfit.

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Scoreboard flattered us. Make no mistake, they completely smashed us, at our own game, on our own turf.

Training loads, injuries, personnel? Please, they are cop outs. We were soft today and didn't want to work hard.

And of all teams, we dish that up against West Coast

Could not be more disappointed in today. Like the bad old days again we were that poor.

We are top 4 pretenders until we prove otherwise. Long way to go based on today.

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We are on our way back...

Certainly looked out of it all day to be honest - their bad kicking in the first quarter flattered us!!!

Despite the playing personnel stocks being low, i thought we struggled all day with the press and i lost count of the times we had some run off half back and stopped to see where to kick it to. Delivery was awful all day and we got smashed in all areas of the clearances in my opinion. Any clearances we had were rushed whilst a lot of theirs were clean.

Today shows that we struggle against teams with big forwards.... all credit to them as they outplayed, and out structured us all day......

lots of Room for improvement

They weren't the reason we lost, but being 10 points down at three quarter time instead of 22 may have made a difference.
Also, add Murphy to part a)

How can we be top 4 pretenders, and yet dissatisfied we played the way we did against West Coast, who would be in the top four if we dropped out?

Don't rate them?

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Not a shattering loss

Thought we got smashed as Surrey said at ground level in the first half.

Kerr in particular was going in and getting it out to the runners. We really struggled to win clearances consistently. Ellard wasn't able to do it all and we did miss Robinson and Curnow. Kerr faded in the second half and Priddis replaced him in the middle. Judd had a very poor day and got little support from his teamates. Few other players had off days like Walker but he has been up for a long time now.

Both teams played a spare man in defence - their spare slaughtered us. Whether it was MacKenzie or Schofield or Butler we couldn't take a mark inside 50. Their defence was terrific however Waite was missing. On the other hand when we kicked out their press/zone was sensational. If it hit the deck their hardness meant they won more of the ground ball until we came out with a bit more intent in the 3rd quarter. Struggle to win games playing catch up.

Thought Austin wasn't too bad as a key defender at times, was able to hold his ground. When up forward he was pushed out easily. Warnock had good and bad moments, he gets pushed out of marking contests too easily by players who are smaller than him. Needs to hold his ground. Carrots did a good job on Hurn.

Lack of marks inside 50 really killed us, especially with the Jamo injury forcing others down back and Kreuzer having an off day.

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99% of posters on here thought we were going to smash West Coast today even with the players out and now its called player management when we lose....

Was a weak effort today, outclassed and outplayed and we couldn't think our way through it... West Coast did there homework, we didn't, we thought it would be just a walk in the park.

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Rhino living in dreamland

We were exposed big time today for major deficiencies, but of course it is all positives

Austin was never going to make it, any idiot can see that. Naming him in team was first sign of defeat. Should have played Bower if it, better of two poor options

And you think we will lose next week

You think Ratten should be congratulated for being proactive. Had he moved Hendo down back half an hr earlier maybe I would agree. Too late. Game over.

You sure you dont work for the club? Pffft.

Before today I thought Henderson could make it. Now, doubtful. I have never seen a worse game!! No heart.

Ummmmmmm did we not draft J. Darling because we thought he was our answer up forward?

Need KP players!! Here's hoping Watson kicks on next year and we draft a tall forward!

One training session was spent soaking in the hotspas on the Peninsula.

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