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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 11:05 am 
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But it still won't be enough. Actually he could probably do the same job and be cheered by these mongs if only he walked off at the end of the game with a bandage wrapped around his head.

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 11:17 am 
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For the life of me I cannot understand the negativity against Gibbsy.
As someone else has said, the last 3 weeks he has beaten Goodes/Goddard/SteveJ, won more than enough ball to create the other way and be exceptional. Have I missed something?
Everyone keeps wanting us to trade for Goddard, yet we have a clone in our side and bag him. :?


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 11:35 am 
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Re: Varcoe's 3 goal burst.

Been reading this discusion with interest. I wasn't there on Fri (stoopid Etihad) so can't comment with authority over what exactly transpired.

Of all the gripes from the last 3-4 years:

    poor starts (no longer, so ... TICK)
    lack of conviction/self belief (TICK)
    failure to show heart or rise to the occasion (haha ST Kilda - TICK)
    inability to win the close ones (barring Warnock's double vision - TICK)
    lack of strategy or reactive coaching (aw ... ok, TICK)
    inexplicably letting opposition players off the leash for short (but ultimately costly) periods

SO, that's a fairly positive improvement. Maybe I'm being too critical -- can't keep the opposition to zero goals, and someone has to kick them ... but if the players/coaches can screw this one down it will move us a step closer. Means concentrating for 100% of game, not 95%.

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 11:40 am 
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Question:

Should Cory Enright be cited for causing Warnock's concussion?

Reckless or negligent head high contact?


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 11:45 am 
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
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Should Cory Enright be cited for causing Warnock's concussion?

Reckless or negligent head high contact?


Pretty sure that similar incidents have been looked at before, but the senior Cats are almost untouchable when it comes to the MRP.

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 12:49 pm 
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Blue Beatle wrote:
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INJURY UPDATE: Rob Warnock was taken to hospital following last night's game after suffering a knock to the head in the last minutes of the match. He has been cleared of any structural damage but is expected to remain in hospital for observation until cleared to go home.


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I have to confess that I felt sick in the stomach when I heard this on ABC radio today. And I regret having such an angry whack at him last night straight after the game. I hereby promise never to post a negative comment when I am angry - cardinal rule is to hold off putting anything to paper in the heat of the moment. I am sorry I didn't apply this rule last night - but I still think he should have kicked it.

For what it is worth in the cold light of day - my overall view is that we really are premiership contenders and like Gerard Whateley (ABC) we will only get better as the season progresses. And when we get kruz, hendo and curnow to name but three - No.17 is ours.

The boys are hard and committed and play for the team (though didn't like duigan bawling out armfield over the hawkins goal on half-time cos duigan was closer.)

Just need experience.

And to those who had a go at "tasmanians" - especially lonni blue - chewy on your boot!. But i still love youse cos we all love the blues.


Well said BB. :thumbsup:
Yes we all say things in the heat of the moment which we later see was a tad excessive.
By the way my reference to Tasmanians was just a bit of the old North/South rivalry which you would of course be aware of down there. Thats where the "Lonny" part of my usename comes from. I might be wrong but I think Verbsy may also have lived in the North as well.
Having all sorts of trouble getting this gum off my boot any suggestions?


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:49 pm 
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At the moment Carlton needs Gibbs to be 1 of 22 good players week in week out. It would obviously be nice if he is Judd Mark II but he isn't.

If every Carlton supporter knew each week that the oppositions best player would be well held by Gibbs and he would still set us up off HB then they would gratefully except it. If we can get someone else good enough to take that role and free Gibbs up then it would be a huge bonus but we don't have anyone at this staged.

Bang on all you like about him not being elite but anyone who can subdue a fit Goodes, Goddard and Steve J is going okay in my book. Those 3 roles alone certainly helped CFC win 2 of 3 games and it should have been 3 from 3.

Regards Cazzesman


i agree - leave him alone. maybe he's not a pack-buster, but very effective nevertheless

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:56 pm 
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Lonny Mac wrote:
Well said BB. :thumbsup:
Yes we all say things in the heat of the moment which we later see was a tad excessive.
By the way my reference to Tasmanians was just a bit of the old North/South rivalry which you would of course be aware of down there. Thats where the "Lonny" part of my usename comes from. I might be wrong but I think Verbsy may also have lived in the North as well.
Having all sorts of trouble getting this gum off my boot any suggestions?


I know we are often accused of being a bit slow, but i did realise that - in fact it was the old north/south rivalry that cost us an VFL team in the early 1980's according to Allen Aylett recently on a WIN news story. Apart from the $3m price tag, it was having to play out of Hobart caused the northern political mafia to can it. Wait for more revelations over coming weeks in relation to The Lord's Taverners annual Ron Barassi Debate at Wrest Point on 6 July (anyone wants more info contact me).

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:01 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
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Was it just me or were the channel 7 camera angles so F**** annoying last night?


It's not just you daggs.

What really annoys me though is when you hear the ball being bounced whilst being shown yet
another picture of the coaches watching the game.

This could be a thread all by itself.
(maybe it is - haven't checked).

We do have a few in TalkingAFL, but go nuts in this thread. :)


Yes, add me to the complaints, Ch 7 really need to smarten up. I couldn't care less if i never see another shot of a coach in the box. Maybe the director who switches camera shots is in love with em. Would be a bit like watching a beatles concert and the camera spending more time on their manager brian epstein than on the beatles (yeh, i am shwoing my age)

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:06 pm 
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Bravo, Blue Beatle. Many never apologise for irrational bad internet behaviour. Good on ya for doing so. It puts you up many levels in my estimation.

And by the way, I would never have a go at you for being a weak-as-p155 map of tasmania........ :wink: :wink:


mate, no offence taken - in fact life would be boring without the map of tasmania in some places.

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:13 pm 
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The game was lost in the final few minutes before half time. Geelong got 2 goals in this time. The worst one was with 19 seconds to go, the ball was in the goal square, a pack of players went up. Not one punched it through, and fatty Hawkins goaled on the goal line. A coincidence that Judd was off injured at this time?


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:55 pm 
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Yes Judd would have been on the line punching it through

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:00 pm 
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Yes Judd would have been on the line punching it through

I didnt mead Judd would have punched it through, rather that the ball may not have got down there.


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:11 pm 
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Wojee wrote:
Mosquito Fleet wrote:
Question:

Should Cory Enright be cited for causing Warnock's concussion?

Reckless or negligent head high contact?


Pretty sure that similar incidents have been looked at before, but the senior Cats are almost untouchable when it comes to the MRP.


Where else can you puch someone with enough force to send them to hosipital for an extended stay and have the MRP say that is OK. His hands must have been a good 3 feet above his face. That was a reckless challenge and I would at least like to see Enright answer for rampant negligence.


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:23 pm 
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Smallman wrote:
Wojee wrote:
Mosquito Fleet wrote:
Question:

Should Cory Enright be cited for causing Warnock's concussion?

Reckless or negligent head high contact?


Pretty sure that similar incidents have been looked at before, but the senior Cats are almost untouchable when it comes to the MRP.


Where else can you puch someone with enough force to send them to hosipital for an extended stay and have the MRP say that is OK. His hands must have been a good 3 feet above his face. That was a reckless challenge and I would at least like to see Enright answer for rampant negligence.


No case to answer - his defence will be that his left arm was being held by a Blues fwd whilst in the motion of spoiling.

Enright will be fine.


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:23 pm 
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BigKev wrote:
What really annoys me though is when you hear the ball being bounced whilst being shown yet
another picture of the coaches watching the game.


Only slightly less annoying than the VFL telecast (on channel 2) where we missed the play in order to receive lingering footage of the Werribee doctor! On two occasions! :banghead:


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:25 pm 
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Stefchook wrote:
BigKev wrote:
What really annoys me though is when you hear the ball being bounced whilst being shown yet
another picture of the coaches watching the game.


Only slightly less annoying than the VFL telecast (on channel 2) where we missed the play in order to receive lingering footage of the Werribee doctor! On two occasions! :banghead:


But his overcoat was the highlight of the Doc - did they say jokingly that he borrowed it from John peck???


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 6:04 pm 
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Yes, add me to the complaints, Ch 7 really need to smarten up. I couldn't care less if i never see another shot of a coach in the box. Maybe the director who switches camera shots is in love with em.
And what about the lack of replays for some crucial decisions or passages of play. Pretty sure there was none for Waiteys touched shot on the line or Setantas near mark late in the 4th amongst others.


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 7:11 pm 
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The Waite one was pathetic.

You can't even tell how Stokes had managed to slip away from Yarran and mark on the lead...Yet they go to an aerial shot to wow us with a long shot of Stokes marking from 100 metres away.

Channel Two's coverage and camera work is superior.

Seven zoom in so close, they almost bump into the players. :razz: :hitcomputer:


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 8:56 pm 
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Take out the Gold Coast win? We have won our games by 1 goal 39 behinds in total. Is that an area to be worked on perhaps?


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