Scarlett kicked Waite in the nuts in the last couple of minutes after taking a mark. Pause it if you have it taped. Doesnt look good.
Karma for Waite -yes- but still worth a free if Duigan gave one for abuse.

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i too saw that...definate double action as he is on his back and his foot is 'resting' in the lower regions of Waite's and then he simply extends his leg ... but not a lot of force...he's a great player but a very ordinary bloke.

But something tells me we wont be hearing about this as much as Waite`s "gutless" kick against Richmond or Juddy`s "savage" backhander to Pavlich.
Any discussion about the Match Review Panel must mention these incidents.

Oh come on... Hulmey wasn't that bad!!!

In actual fact it was Russell for the first two goals after half time. I know cause I saw Russell stand off him on the defensive side of the square and Varcoe went up along the wing. Russell on both occasions let him walk up there and gave him a glance but just didn't bother to man him up. I was going beserk at this stage and even more so when Varcoe just got the ball immediately (straight after his first goal), to go forward.
Armfield went onto him after the second goal and did exactly the same thing until after the third one when he decided to play him a bit closer.

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Varcoe's goals did not come from centre breaks. They come minutes after centre bounces. If you go to game analyser on the AFL site you can see each goal and the following bounce. The positioning of our players at each bounce did not cost us.

At the moment Carlton needs Gibbs to be 1 of 22 good players week in week out. It would obviously be nice if he is Judd Mark II but he isn't.

If every Carlton supporter knew each week that the oppositions best player would be well held by Gibbs and he would still set us up off HB then they would gratefully except it. If we can get someone else good enough to take that role and free Gibbs up then it would be a huge bonus but we don't have anyone at this staged.

Bang on all you like about him not being elite but anyone who can subdue a fit Goodes, Goddard and Steve J is going okay in my book. Those 3 roles alone certainly helped CFC win 2 of 3 games and it should have been 3 from 3.

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I didnt say they came from centre breaks as i know they didnt.
Armfield was only minding him after his second goal.
After his first one, Russell stood off him and allowed him to get the ball whch he then drove deep into the forward line.

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Sounds about right. Good pickup.

Bravo, Blue Beatle. Many never apologise for irrational bad internet behaviour. Good on ya for doing so. It puts you up many levels in my estimation.

And by the way, I would never have a go at you for being a weak-as-p155 map of tasmania........

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So basically after all that we can conclude that Varcoe was allowed to run free for 12 minutes. If it was Mark Blake you could understand it but not Varcoe.

Wouldnt it be easier if our head coach was higher up to see that rather than being at ground level taking his headset off every 2 minutes.

Fact is had Varcoe been pressured we would have won.
he falls into a heap when he does

Hypothetical question not meant to be personal.
If Gibbs has this role for the rest of his career, would you think we have got a decent bang for our buck.

I agree with this. Collingwood last year began 'kicking for touch' into their fwd line. They struggled to convert field dominance into scoreboard dominance on many occasions because of it. We are finding the same thing. Kicks into the fwd line are sometimes as defensive as they are offensive now. Seems odd but the top of your own goal square is a bad place to turn the ball over to a team like Geelong.

Footy's changing so quickly....

I am not sure we can conclude that. You need to rewatch that twelve minutes. He had players on him. They were perhaps a bit loose but i am sure that would not have been the instructions. A couple of times Russ moved into a pack and lost Varcoe in traffic and there was a time where russell was forced to go towards a Geelong player that broke away from a clearance. Maybe a tight tag on Varcoe would have worked but maybe we just kept things as they were in the first half where we were succesful and in that 12 min Varcoe got lucky or was just plain too good.

Brown Riley Barker and Richardson are in the box. The first 3 coaching thier line and Richardson as a tactician. Ratts sits on the bench and recieves information for his say and also does the face to face coaching. Sounds like a good mix to me and the results this year show it to be working.
IMO it gives the "we are all in it together" vibe having Ratts on the bench and the players are responding to that. If the results start going south then having Ratts coaching from the bench will be reviewed i am sure.

On Gibbs - IMO first pick in the draft all but guarantees you a 200 game player (barring injury). The risk is taken out of it. If we get that from Gibbs at his current level playing his current role you would have to say we got what we wanted.
I know people wanted the next Nathan Buckley but Gibbs is not that player. To me he is a neat Peter Motley type. The problem is with those that wanted Buckley but got Motley. Not Gibbs or the club.

As long as he is playing his role well for the club and it leads to a flag we cant be unhappy.

Hypothetical answer...........He doesn't need to do it for the rest of his career if we can find someone else who can do it anywhere near as well. No doubt having the oppositions best player subdued each week is a huge bonus so I have no problems with the way he is playing or being used by the club so far in 2011. Others are taking up the slack in the middle so it is a win win. It is no different with Yarran. He is being played where it will best suit the balance of the team at this current time and place.

Why do you continue to bang on about Ratts being on the bench? It has been done to death over and over and the players like having him down there for the feedback. Obviously Brown and Richardson have it under control in the box. If you are going to hang your hat on Varco's 2 gls to provide an argument as to why Ratts has to go back into the box then you are really missing the big picture after 8 games.

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Bingo.



Double bingo

If Bryce Gibbs finishes his career with the same sort of career that Bruce Doull had I will be happy

Pendlebury held to 20 averages 30 plus same with Stevens then gies on and dies a job on Goodes Goddard quitens Stevie J and held Bartel in the first half

The kid is a giant killer

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Give Gibbsy 3 more years to mentally/physically mature (25 years old) and he'll be every bit of a Buckley type general, IMO.

In regards to the coaching structure, I think (and the results so far indicate) that they've got the setup spot on and credit to Ratts for putting the ego aside and delegating.