Haven't watched the replay, but I noticed when I watched it on Saturday night.
Gibbs had a poor game, but the criticism of him has been hysterical. He did some crucial, hard things in the last quarter which really helped us to win.

That would make it even more damning.

In your wisdom SydneyBlue, please explain why we have a head coach who is there to "mentor and barrack" on match day?
What an indictment..

Parkin did it for about two years and Brittain was match day coach

Roos has done it with Longmire for several years now

Malthouse often leaves matchday decisions to buckley and co

and you cant tell me Neil Craig was calling the shots from the boundary


some of you people need to get a real grip there is no moving SOS from fullback to fullforward these days they are that busy trying to keep up with player management and fatigue through bench rotations

The Head coach has a completely differnet role these days and a lot of it is counselling the players - and barracking- supporting- mentoring the players during the game ' If there is a structure issue that would be up to the countless assistants sitting in the box to work out

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I think SB is fairly close to the mark with the coaching structure.

I remember Richardson's interview when he was appointed talking about his role as including match day coaching and tactics.

I see Ratts' role more as a senior co-ordinator of coaches type role.

In terms of responsibility of overall perfomance, it's on Ratts' head.

I'm only up to page 2 of an 11 page thread, but the MC neeeds to take some responsibility IMO.

I posted in the pre-game thread that I thought we have been 1 tall too few in each of our games this year, and that it has hurt us in the games v Richmond, Collingwood and Essendon*, due to a lack of flexibility. Then we drop Henderson (right move) and replaced him with a small. To have Jamison, White and Waite as your only genuine KPPs (and some might even argue that White and Waite aren't genuine KPPs) in a game of footy is asking for trouble. One injury, one player out of touch (as Hampson is, and he's not a genuine KPP player anyway, he just happens to get lumped at FF a lot) and it's trouble.

Laidler was outmarked at least twice by Tippett and McKernan. Bad matchup.

And then Ratten in his presser said we had some structural issues because we were a bit too short...hello??? What's going on in there? Honestly, this is not rocket science. As for the kick it long and hope, that killed us in Q1 v Essendon*, and was apparently the instruction at 3/4 time, doesn't instill great confidence. Walker and Waite have both shown how effective they can be on the lead, why don't we play to that strength?

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What a load of nonsense Sydney.
The coaches job is to barrack? If a coach is barracking, he has lost focus and perspective.
The coach is there for countless activities including ensuring match ups are in your favour, manipulating momentum and ensuring opposition strategies are minimised. Go into any half decent coaches box and one of the first rules is 'dont barrack'

Barracking is for the punter in the outer, not the bloke who is paid several hundred k a year to manage the football department.

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Ratten went onto say that the coaches opted to go for a 'cut the supply ' approach rather than try to match them for height. Hard to know if that was the right or wrong move. We created more than enough chances to smash them but we didnt take them. We got a lot of run off halfback early which would have been comprimised if we had talls in our backline. Early we scored the goals that won us the game. I think it is good to train our midfield to pretect the backline and this situation was the perfect situation to work on that.

Having said that it may have worked if we another tall. Bower being the only one fit at the time .

Could have played Thornton. It's about having flexibility, so that if plan A isn't working, you have something else to fall back on. Laidler couldn't cope with Adelaide's third tall (no blame on him, he's undersized for that job) and we had no plan B. It almost cost us the game.

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From 5.1 to 8.18 (and we still weren't behind at that that stage), with some absolutely abomidable misses strewn throughout there would have been no other issue except for $hit kicking.

Yeah they were beaten in a few contests but they also beat their own men countless times throughout the match. The extra 2 centimetres of T-Bird in height would have made f*ck all difference.

We are talking about 2 ruckman who play forward and a KP forward.

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Seig,
Yes but out bad kicking got us into trouble and from there we were good enough to work through it take the points. The fact we did that will be of great value in the future. Lets get plan A up and running and back it to get the win in the end. Good teams back themselves.

Cant pick a team on thursday night based on the chance we might kick 2 goals 15points during a long period of the game. Cant imagine the coaches all sitting around saying "lets send out a good running team to counter their height but we should add thornton just in case we dont kick straight ".

The MC planned to get a win against a team that usually worries us. They got it even though we almost stuffed it up due to bad conversion.

Replay on Fox Sports 1 at the moment.

Well barrack might be the wrong term of phrase - support might be better - nothing wrong with a coach showing where his heart is now and again

He is not in the coaches box - He is on the bench - Someone is doing the matchups for him


I dont know maybe he is doing the stats on the boundary he seems to be on top of them

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listen in on neil craigs post match presser for a good perspective on the match - there was quite a bit of praise for where the blues are at.

The same neil craig who said port power were a powerhouse team?

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The same neil craig that is widely regarded as a good coach and has missed the finals just once in his reign at the crows.

Our kicking for goal was certainly poor, but, our entry into the 50 metre arc was often from out wide. A fair percentage of shots were taken from acute angles, behinds will come from shots taken from the pockets, or deep on the flanks.

The only single thing that did not allow this to be a very good win was the fact we did not kick straight for goal. We played all over Adelaide and had we kicked better for goal we would be very happy right now.
Ratten & comp. has us playing well currently and with some passion & run. Granted we still make errors and have a bit to go but we are improving more and more every week. I said it before the game and will say it again, we do need one more KP forward and KP back to balance our team but if they aren't putting themselves up for selection what can the MC do?

Sydney and StKilda wins could set us up for top 4, this is what's important.

Collingwood worked through the same problem a year or two back. Nail a couple from the pockets and you can stretch the oppositions defence and open up areas closer to the middle of the arc for the rest of the game. Unless they put 17 players back like adelaide did.

Noone is saying we should have scored them all but there were plenty from very getable positions that missed. Also luck with passes not being 15m, judds shot stalling on the line and walker hitting the post. If five of the 15 points in the second and third have had went through we would have won easily.

Well the good news you have 9 more pages to read to see the truth of the matter and come over to my dark side.

Regards Cazzesman

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