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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:14 pm 
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I am asking the question -not insinuating anything. Gibbs has NOT played well this year - not just one game - when it comes to work rate and hardness - skills are still great. I am worried something is going on in the background - whatever it is. IMHO he is going backwards and that is a huge disappointment. He should be a play maker in the midfield but is mostly used in defense. He should be so dangerous at this stage of his career that he sometimes gets tagged - he is not. I love the boy and I do understand he is not an inside player but I seen him this year avoid body contact and he does not show desperation.


He had 29 poss game 1, 36 game 2, 20 game 3 tagging Pendles and kept Pendles to 21 when his average this year is 29.5. 20 possessions rd 4 and 17 last night.

Of course people will say possessions aren't everything but they are quick to bring them up when they are low for Eddie and Hammer.

So his form is far from woeful. Theres a bloke called Craig Bradley who went alright who was often criticised for his style of play most of his career and particularly early on in his formative years. Not everyone in the comp can be a bulldozer at every stoppage. With Curnow, Ellard and Robbo now doing the grunt work I would rather Bryce be the finisher on the outside much like Bradley was.

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 Post subject: Selection Struggles
PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:12 pm 
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The match committee seems to get it wrong consistently and it nearly cost us.
This weeks decision to leave Betts and Hampson in the side was baffling although Betts achieved almost a pass mark for his forward pressure. Hampson was woeful again and cannot continue to be carried.
The decision to drop Hendo and Collins was good but to bring in 2 similar players in Ellard and Jospeh (both small tough nuts not blessed with speed) was strange given Crows were always going to stretch us down back with Tippett and Walker, surely Bower would have been useful last night.
(Ellard had a great game and he and armfield should remain in the side ahead of Joseph (even though he did some nice things)
Next week will be fascinating given that the swans have plenty of nippy smalls and not too many talls.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:15 pm 
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Read the post match discussions nearly every week, hardly ever post.

I have noticed that something has been up with Gibbs this year. You can rattle off his stats and they don't look too bad on the surface, but its more than that. Its his body language, lack of intensity and effort. He hardly ever does the 1% stuff that you expect of your "guns".. He just looks totally disinterested at the moment, something needs to be said/done to get him to lift. Certainly not playing like a number 1 draft pick.

Footy is such a confidence game, obviously a lot of the boys not playing with confidence they should have. Even Juddy missing that goal.. He must have gone back and talked himself out of it because all of the talk in the media about his goal kicking letting him down..

The way last night went, I am not looking forward to watching the Swans game.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:39 pm 
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I had a friend visit last night, so I couldn't comment on the game, as I saw very little at all. Did we really perform that bad ?? Reading some very negative thoughts which is a worry and especially about Gibbs ? I guess a bad performance just brings us closer to a really good performance. Things just have to click eventually. I hope eventually is very, very soon.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:42 pm 
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Five weeks in and we're third on the ladder. Woeful.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:47 pm 
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Wasn't as bad as everyone's made out. Personally I walked away from last season kidneyed with this team - literally. I'm pretty happy to be going to the footy this year, and I haven't seen us lose yet!!! :grin: :grin:

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 Post subject: Re: Selection Struggles
PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:47 pm 
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I thought forward line was way more functional tonight with walker in and defensive pressure improved
We desperately need a kpf but we saw last week just playing one when they not in form is more of a liability than positive
Hampson is not working forward but there is no one better, so he keeps his spot and gets another opportunity to work on his game. Alternatives listed are not better.
Scg may be a good ground for McLean to come back in.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:52 pm 
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mantis wrote:
I had a friend visit last night, so I couldn't comment on the game, as I saw very little at all. Did we really perform that bad ?? Reading some very negative thoughts which is a worry and especially about Gibbs ? I guess a bad performance just brings us closer to a really good performance. Things just have to click eventually. I hope eventually is very, very soon.


I wouldn't say we are playing bad, just forward of centre is a real struggle at present without options to replace Hampson, Betts out of form and inaccuracy in front of goal.

Defensively as a team we have been good around the ground and mentally we seem to have finally developed a strong culture to never give up.

Gibbs had a shocker, won't be dropped on one very poor performance, but needs to lift his intensity.


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 Post subject: Re: Selection Struggles
PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:56 pm 
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How can a forward line function properly......

WHEN you DON"T select forwards!!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:59 pm 
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Been hearing a few comments that the umpiring was completely in our favour esp late in the game - I didn't think it was that one-sided. Some :confused: decisions for both teams earlier in the game but not at the crucial stages I thought?


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:59 pm 
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Any reason there was no ANZAC ceremony before the game? Dissapointing!

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Who should they have selected then?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:28 pm 
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Rafalution wrote:
mantis wrote:
I had a friend visit last night, so I couldn't comment on the game, as I saw very little at all. Did we really perform that bad ?? Reading some very negative thoughts which is a worry and especially about Gibbs ? I guess a bad performance just brings us closer to a really good performance. Things just have to click eventually. I hope eventually is very, very soon.


I wouldn't say we are playing bad, just forward of centre is a real struggle at present without options to replace Hampson, Betts out of form and inaccuracy in front of goal.

Defensively as a team we have been good around the ground and mentally we seem to have finally developed a strong culture to never give up.

Gibbs had a shocker, won't be dropped on one very poor performance, but needs to lift his intensity.



It looks like Henderson and Kreuzer will fix our forward problems, but that will take half a dozen games or so to work. Gibbs might need to watch highlights of Daisy Thomas and how he applies his work rate for his own development. It doesn't hurt to execute stratergies other players have introduced into their games to refine their effectiveness on the playing field. I am just glad we haven't lost more than a game so far, and the only one to the premiership favoutites so far, and in flying form at the moment too. Maybe we need to be happy for that. :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:53 pm 
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Headcutter wrote:
The match committee seems to get it wrong consistently and it nearly cost us.
This weeks decision to leave Betts and Hampson in the side was baffling although Betts achieved almost a pass mark for his forward pressure. Hampson was woeful again and cannot continue to be carried.
The decision to drop Hendo and Collins was good but to bring in 2 similar players in Ellard and Jospeh (both small tough nuts not blessed with speed) was strange given Crows were always going to stretch us down back with Tippett and Walker, surely Bower would have been useful last night.
(Ellard had a great game and he and armfield should remain in the side ahead of Joseph (even though he did some nice things)
Next week will be fascinating given that the swans have plenty of nippy smalls and not too many talls.



Bower wasn't ready just yet re fitness and Ellard was a constant contested ball winner and ended with 20+ possessions and kicked a booming goal.

When AJ came on as the sub he had an impact and layed possibly a match saving tackle. Hampson had 12 hit outs. Anthing else you though they got wrong?

Tippet is obviously a big ask for any team and Walker is good but just your standard KP forward. Without Bower it was either White or T-Bird. The MC went with White after his good job on Hurley. White struggled this week on Walker. Such is life. The Blues won and if it wasn't for bad kicking would have won easily so I guess the MC got it right with most of there calls.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:02 pm 
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verbs wrote:
Five weeks in and we're third on the ladder. Woeful.


Would have taken this before the season started very happily.

2 or 3 seasons ago, this was a pipe dream...

And most posters agree: there is only improvement to come - so, what's not to like?!!

Have we already forgotten how awful we were??

SACK EVERYBODY!!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:02 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
I guess the MC got it right with most of there calls.

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them calls.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:04 pm 
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Yarran was subbed for hamstring tightness Captain Dan, not for form. He was probably the cleanest skilled player out there - there was no way this was a choice. In the pst match presser Ratten talked about Yarran having done a hammy last week and with the slightest bit of tightness they were not going to risk it.



Woohoo, so he hasn't actually done one?! but he did one last week? wtf!

I hope he plays up in sydney, I want to see him live at the SCG for my first ever interstate game!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:04 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
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Come on Mikkey we don't need this rubbish trotted out. It is pointless and devisive. NO he doesn't want to go the Crows or GWS or ANY WHERE ELSE. Yes he is happy at the Blues.

He has had 4 average (by his standards) quarters out of 20 this year. Give the kid a break. He has probably put together 90+ of the most consistent games you will see from a kid who started at 18 in a crap team.

People need to get off his back. He will lift.

Regards Cazzesman


Sorry Cazz. You are overselling Gibbs BIG TIME. His last 30 or so games have been (in general) serviceable at best. Don't look at meaningless stats. They are the same meaningless stats that Grigg picks up. Show me some influential games.
I know that Coll are a much better side but FFS, Pendlebury and Thomas are light years ahead as far as their contributions.

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Any reason there was no ANZAC ceremony before the game? Dissapointing!


Only doing the ceremony once in each state.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:06 pm 
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Watched the last qtr again tonight. Curnow's last 10 mins were just brilliant.

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