Yes I was there LL. Did you not notice the 18 Crow jumpers inside our F50 on many occasions during the game from 1/4 time on. The problem was the lack of free space during the flood and shite disposal into the forward line more so that the players inside F50.

Time and again the kicks flew well over the head of the intended target and the turnover was on. You can blame plenty of things but the forward structure was not the issue, it was the way it went in after 1/4 time.

Regards Cazzesman

Even Dale Thomas can impose himself on the contest when needed. Dale !@#$%& Thomas.

Frustrating night.

Game should have been over when Judd instead hit the post from 15 out in the first quarter. That's life.

Thought our backline looked as well structured and fluent in it's movement of the ball as it has for a long while, even in the face of the uberflood. Full credit to Gavin Brown there. Starting to wonder if Bower is a necessity to return.

Lot of positives to take out of the game I thought. David Ellard's game was fantastic, really happy to see him get his just rewards for some good form in the twos. Real benefit to having Ellard in the side is having a midfielder who kicks goals. Something we don't have a lot of.

Walker's game was encouraging too, but also a product of things coming together tonight, and getting the rub of the coin. The silly marks stuck, the ball rolled out to the silly areas where he runs to. Was a lethal set shot for goal tonight, certainly had the kicking boots on. Far more pressing issues for the time being than Walker. I thought moving him out of the forward line was the match changer (can't fault Ratts here - hands were tied with Yarran going off)...and then Craig's bizarre decision to play Tambling on Waite in the last, swung it again. Again to give credit where credit's due, Ratts sending Russell forward was handy too.

Simpson's last quarter reminds me the Simpsons episode where Bart drops the catch in the little league game and they kept giving him the do-over. No matter what, just couldn't make amends. Good game regardless.

Juddy didn't look right tonight. Kicking looked a bit restricted, running looked a bit labored at times. Hopefully nothing too serious?

Reckon Robbo might have hit the wall, and the bye can't come quick enough for him. The famous Robbo second/third efforts were lacking a couple of times tonight, not through effort, but just not having anything left in the tank. A candidate for the sub for next week

Gibbs was embarassing. Anyone want to say he doesn't remind you of Travis Johnstone without the marijuana and gambling habits? Can't even call him a front runner, as he never runs. The way he escorted someone to the ball and then jogged alongside watching them set up Adelaide's first goal tonight, was Mick Mansfield-esque.

Thought Warnock beat Jacobs pretty comfortably tonight, and then Jacobs absolutely smashed Hampson. If there's any ground we could probably get away with not having a second ruck, it's the SCG..

Same shit different week for Betts, Gibbs Hampson...

Surely Jamo has to get his due as one of the most improved players in the competition. He's bordering on the competition's best.

Sydney will smash us, which at this time of the year presents a good opportunity for a wake up call, and a shake up of the 22.

How do you beat the flood Keogh

Post on here Ratts might be reading

Did not agree with Yarran being subbed off. The game was in the balance, he has a lot of x factor about him, can run us off half-back and really damage opposition teams. Shit coaching I think, and that's coming from someone who supports Ratts a lot.

Regards Cazzesman

Fair enough.

I saw him come off injured at one stage, but then he came back on. Didn't think there was any need at that point to bring him off if he was good enough to come back on.

Cheers guys.

Well I lol'd

If the flood is "soooooo impossible" to beat, wy don't all teams flood when they want to win. Gut run in twos and threes and gut run to make space. Watch Coll, Ess and Gee do it. We don't. We just jog with our opponent right up our arse

Apparently, when 18 players are inside our F50, they call it.....now let me think.....it's a new fad that's come in....a yes, they call it a 'flood'. That's a funny name. Must be a new strategy in vogue this year. Gee I hope our brains trust can thwart this. Neil Craig must be at the forefront of tactical response.
Maybe we can use it when the opposition are getting on top of us. Just a thought?

Anyone who blames Ratten for tonights effort is a tool.

It was the same players and the same game plan after 1/4 time when it should have been about 7gls to 1gl except for poor kicking. After that all the problems were player related not Coach related.

Hanging it on the players but the Coach was not the problem tonight.

Regards Cazzesman

I must admit I am frustrated with the team at the moment. Why? Because when we are 'on' we look really good, sublime almost but then we go and play some really bad stupid footy that is not acceptable in a bush league.

In every game ( GC game excepted) this year we have put ourselves in positions we shouldn't have through our own ineptitude. This has allowed the opposition to impose themslves on the game. It is simply frustrating. I don't mind losing to teams who are claerly better on the day but to salvage a draw in one and have to fight back to win antoher game that should have been in hand at half time when we are clearly the better team is just not platable. If this is not sorted out pronto it will cost us bigtime when the crunch games come.

Extract from The Age below:

Sam Jacobs left the Blues for his home town at the end of last season, while Ed Curnow was an Adelaide rookie way back when, in 1998.

How old is Curnow????

Essendon* cheated, simple as that

Let me put it this way.

They flooded clogging the F50. Even when a CFC player found the smallest amount of space to slot into inside 50 the Carlton player kicking it inside couldn't hit the side of the barn. Those were 2 simple facts. We could beat the flood if the execution was better but it wasn't.

It doesn't matter what sort of game plan you have if the disposal falls away across the board like it did at times tonight. All you can do is hope to tough it out like they did and hope for some inspiration. He pushed Jordy forward and he got some magic from Simmo and Ellard and there you have a tough win.

Posters keep talking about having a forward structure but at the moment we are still pinch hitting to some degree because of the following.....

Injury - Kreuz, Houls
Form - Hendo, Eddie, McLean, Setanta, Lucas, Armfield
Inconsistancy of Effort - Gibbs, Hammer

Walker was the hero yesterday but he has been his own worst enemy in other games.

Sure we could bring in T-Bird but I think that just makes us tread water more. Some want to bring in Watson but he still has plenty of aspects in his game to work on in the VFL. That was clear in yesterdays VFL game. If you want to make him another Livo then all we need to do is kill him in the 1st year of his career.

The defense isn't the real problem because even with the 3 big forwards the Crows had we still kept them to a losing score. And that was done with some inexperienced but seasoned defenders.

The main offenders for the poor disposal yesterday were the majority of senior players. When that is a case all the Coach can do is hope they get their act together sooner rather than later.

We are winning ugly with a team that really needs all it's players firing to get us over the line in big games.

Regards Cazzesman