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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:20 pm 
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got to bring in Brocky this week - we have the swans the week after and we will need him there for sure

Out Collins - Betts
In Brocky -Bower

Move - Murph or Gibbs or Simpson forward into Betts role
Play either white or duigan further up the ground in the Collins role to make way for Bower

Use Hammer 50% in ruck 50% up forward and the same with Warnock - Warnock is a far better marking target than Hammer

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:32 pm 
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yep,
I really appreciated my PERSONAL letter from Ratts this week. :razz:
I think he knows that this little bg is on his side.
I agree with him that we should not blame Kade and Jeffy.
They were two of our best..and if I coulda hugged Simmo at the end of the game..I sure would have.
Ya had to feel for the guy.
Anyhoo..I hope my close personal pen pal Ratts will make a few little changes..tweak things a bit for this week.
Was gonna write him back with my thoughts on changes..you know..ins and outs..the sort of feedback he just loves to get from us devoted members..but..nay.
methinks he's probably had enough feedback this week. :grin:
good on you Ratts.
Keep on writing to me..
I'm digging it.
You seem like a lovely bloke..and after we win this week, things will (hopefully) settle down for you a bit.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:47 pm 
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Somewhat reliable poster on BF says at this stage,
In: Bower, Ellard
Out: Betts, Collins


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:04 pm 
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Ellard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McLean

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:20 pm 
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Kouta wrote:
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Agree re. the sentiments regarding Hampson. Us waiting for him to show something reminds me of the Bummers fans from a few years back who were always waiting for Courtney Johns to tear a game apart, but he never did. The Club and fans resigned to him being a spud, and he was promptly delisted... Its looking like Hammer might go the same way as Courtney Johns...

*snip*


I wasnt comparing the two players... I was comparingthe hype and anticipation surrounding both players...

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:36 pm 
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Doughty and Mr Turnover Tambling will be back in for the Crows.

Stevens has a headache that has lasted over a week :?

Mind you if I played for the Crows I'd have a headache for that long too.....

Those 2 ins aren't exactly earth shattering......

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:57 pm 
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I'm sticking with:

Out

Betts
Collins
Hampson

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Ellard/Army
Lucas
Bower/Thornton

Hendo to pinch hit as second ruck.

Either Thornton in as second marking forward tall. Or we bring Bower in and push White up into the forward line.

Hammmer, Betts and Collins all need to regain touch and confidence.

Don't see more than three outs. hendo to get a chance to improve and Irish needs to regain fitness base before we think of bringing him in.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:25 pm 
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Dominator_7 wrote:
Kouta wrote:
Dominator_7 wrote:
Agree re. the sentiments regarding Hampson. Us waiting for him to show something reminds me of the Bummers fans from a few years back who were always waiting for Courtney Johns to tear a game apart, but he never did. The Club and fans resigned to him being a spud, and he was promptly delisted... Its looking like Hammer might go the same way as Courtney Johns...

*snip*


I wasnt comparing the two players... I was comparingthe hype and anticipation surrounding both players...


Hampsons ruckwork would make him tradeable.

I wouldnt be shipping him off just yet though.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:03 pm 
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I have to say I don't quite see Ellard in the same light as everyone else. I would rather see Lucas in the side, but that is not to say it is either or. What can Ellard being in, that say a Lucas can't?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:09 pm 
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Should be a comfortable win for the boys this week...Adelaide are pretty depleted out of form and lacking in confidence big time....if we start well this may well be a blow out...should be back into the top 4 after this one :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:33 pm 
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SA Blue wrote:
I have to say I don't quite see Ellard in the same light as everyone else. I would rather see Lucas in the side, but that is not to say it is either or. What can Ellard being in, that say a Lucas can't?

Clearances. Lots of tackles. Serious amounts of grit. A smile to Jeffy's face in that someone else is smaller than him. :grin:

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:49 pm 
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SA Blue wrote:
I have to say I don't quite see Ellard in the same light as everyone else. I would rather see Lucas in the side, but that is not to say it is either or. What can Ellard being in, that say a Lucas can't?


His last 25 odd games have been of a consistent high level. He's a good footballer who'll give 100% to the contest every time. If I was to say what he would bring that Lucas won't it would be maturity and commitment and perhaps there is less chance of any mistakes or bad decisions.

He also really really deserves it.... :thumbsup:

Like him.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:59 pm 
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TheBluesMuse wrote:
SA Blue wrote:
I have to say I don't quite see Ellard in the same light as everyone else. I would rather see Lucas in the side, but that is not to say it is either or. What can Ellard being in, that say a Lucas can't?


His last 25 odd games have been of a consistent high level. He's a good footballer who'll give 100% to the contest every time. If I was to say what he would bring that Lucas won't it would be maturity and commitment and perhaps there is less chance of any mistakes or bad decisions.

He also really really deserves it.... :thumbsup:

Like him.


Yeah I agree, just reckon you know with Ellard that he'll have a fair dinkum crack every time

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:18 pm 
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In: Ellard, Army, Lucas

Out: Collins, Carrots, Betts.

Sub: Walker (Unless used as the Rhino suggests, in which case Armfield or Robbo).

Wanting to see Ellard and Curnow both playing. Will work really well IMO. Throw in Judd and we will be hard to beat at stoppages. Lucas possible to play Gibbs role in the midfield Gibbs to rotate between the HF and midfield. Would like to see Ellard also rotated through the fwd line as he can kick a goal. Certainly did so for Swannies back here. He and Gibbs both spending some time rotating through will cover the 'loss' of Fast Eddie. Hopefully Eddie can recharge in the Ants.

Armfield down back. I read that he is playing fwd in the Bullants lately but is great running out of half back.

Outs pretty much been talked to death on the other 9 pages so don't really need to add anymore here. Thought Thornton should have stayed in last week, but now Hendo is here will probably get another game. To be honest, don't really know the crows side as well as most other sides, but if an extra tall would be of help up front then T-Brid could come in instead of Lucus. (Feels too tall, but mentioning it in case we can exploit the Cow's defense).

Bower and McLean another week in the twos unless Bower really is ready to go. Then White would be the one feeling unlucky. Much better game last week than earlier, but the one to give way IMO.

Whilst not starring, don't think you can drop Hampson. Can't bring anyone else in for him and don't want to see Hendo or Waite having to cover him. Hampson, like 206 did, needs games. When Kruezer is back then Hampson will be having to really earn his spot though.

Sub:
Like Walker as a sub as he is the prototype impact player, as well as being a good sized utility - ie, versatile. Did read a far more thought out post earlier by The Rhino (pg 4) talking about Walker being the man to stop Dangerfield (as he's done before), in which case it'd be a shame not to be able to do that. If Walker has that role then Armfield or Robinson.

Case for Walker/Army/Robbo as sub: They impact games when they come on, which is why I think it a better option than the 'ease in approach' for say Lucas. I know Freo has toyed with using the sub as a way to ease a player back in, but I think bringing in a player that can have a real impact on the game, and use their pace/extra energy is a better option. A. Krakeour did this well, as did the Hawks by bringing on Jordan Lewis against Melbourne. Our use of Collins (easing him into the game) - not so successful. Freo also showed the benefit of impact players as subs in Palmer and Walters. Whatever else you can say about them, they do at least attempt to impose themselves on the game. Sometimes the two uses meet, ie - West Coast's Gaff. But his success is having a high energy, versatile player that benefits from being able to use his energy in a burst.

(Apologies for the rambling and a for a post a bit off topic...)

(Edit: Just corrected one sentence so it made more sense - grammatically anyway. I leave the footy sense judgement up to you).

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:26 pm 
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
TheBluesMuse wrote:
SA Blue wrote:
I have to say I don't quite see Ellard in the same light as everyone else. I would rather see Lucas in the side, but that is not to say it is either or. What can Ellard being in, that say a Lucas can't?


His last 25 odd games have been of a consistent high level. He's a good footballer who'll give 100% to the contest every time. If I was to say what he would bring that Lucas won't it would be maturity and commitment and perhaps there is less chance of any mistakes or bad decisions.

He also really really deserves it.... :thumbsup:

Like him.


Yeah I agree, just reckon you know with Ellard that he'll have a fair dinkum crack every time



Ellard is 100% FOOTBALLER, pick him for flower sake you stupid dumb bastards.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:30 pm 
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FB: Armfield Jamison Duigan
HB: Yarran White Russell
C: Scotland Curnow Simpson
HF: Gibbs Waite Thornton
FF: Walker Warnock Garlett
RR: Hampson Judd Murphy

Int: Carrazzo Robinson Ellard

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:00 am 
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cimm1979 wrote:

Ellard is 100% FOOTBALLER, pick him for flower sake you stupid dumb bastards.


Not saying he is not deserving, but he seems undersized and speed is an issue. I can't see him playing 100 games for us, but rather filling a short term need. Yes he gives 100%, but I believe his ability is capped lower than others and I would rather a long term prospect like Lucas to get a gig.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:28 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Why are people calling for White or Laidler to be dropped? I thought our defence functioned well today. :?
White did a good job on Hurley and as much as Laidler doesn't have any standout features, he commits his body to the contest 100%. We need more blokes with an unconditional attack on the ball , not less.


Great post. Defence was the least of our worries. Some people just get a mindset against a player, and unless he gets BOG he should be dropped.

OUT: Betts, Collins
IN: Ellard, Lucas

Carrots very lucky, ditto Hammer.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:31 am 
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Koro wrote:
In: Ellard, Army, Lucas

Out: Collins, Carrots, Betts.

Sub: Walker (Unless used as the Rhino suggests, in which case Armfield or Robbo).

Wanting to see Ellard and Curnow both playing. Will work really well IMO. Throw in Judd and we will be hard to beat at stoppages. Lucas possible to play Gibbs role in the midfield Gibbs to rotate between the HF and midfield. Would like to see Ellard also rotated through the fwd line as he can kick a goal. Certainly did so for Swannies back here. He and Gibbs both spending some time rotating through will cover the 'loss' of Fast Eddie. Hopefully Eddie can recharge in the Ants.

Armfield down back. I read that he is playing fwd in the Bullants lately but is great running out of half back.

Outs pretty much been talked to death on the other 9 pages so don't really need to add anymore here. Thought Thornton should have stayed in last week, but now Hendo is here will probably get another game. To be honest, don't really know the crows side as well as most other sides, but if an extra tall would be of help up front then T-Brid could come in instead of Lucus. (Feels too tall, but mentioning it in case we can exploit the Cow's defense).

Bower and McLean another week in the twos unless Bower really is ready to go. Then White would be the one feeling unlucky. Much better game last week than earlier, but the one to give way IMO.

Whilst not starring, don't think you can drop Hampson. Can't bring anyone else in for him and don't want to see Hendo or Waite having to cover him. Hampson, like 206 did, needs games. When Kruezer is back then Hampson will be having to really earn his spot though.

Sub:
Like Walker as a sub as he is the prototype impact player, as well as being a good sized utility - ie, versatile. Did read a far more thought out post earlier by The Rhino (pg 4) talking about Walker being the man to stop Dangerfield (as he's done before), in which case it'd be a shame not to be able to do that. If Walker has that role then Armfield or Robinson.

Case for Walker/Army/Robbo as sub: They impact games when they come on, which is why I think it a better option than the 'ease in approach' for say Lucas. I know Freo has toyed with using the sub as a way to ease a player back in, but I think bringing in a player that can have a real impact on the game, and use their pace/extra energy is a better option. A. Krakeour did this well, as did the Hawks by bringing on Jordan Lewis against Melbourne. Our use of Collins (easing him into the game) - not so successful. Freo also showed the benefit of impact players as subs in Palmer and Walters. Whatever else you can say about them, they do at least attempt to impose themselves on the game. Sometimes the two uses meet, ie - West Coast's Gaff. But his success is having a high energy, versatile player that benefits from being able to use his energy in a burst.

(Apologies for the rambling and a for a post a bit off topic...)

(Edit: Just corrected one sentence so it made more sense - grammatically anyway. I leave the footy sense judgement up to you).



Thanks mate, glad SOMEONE read it. To say I was a bit peeved at watching the Showdown, spending about 20 minutes writing up that preview, only for it to be lost in a back page behind the usual bogans and no shows pissing on about their usual vendettas about players they don't like good....

I agree with you in theory about Walker being the sub, but in practice, I reckon it won't happen as it would mean two weeks running for Walker as the sub. Teams have shown to be loathe so far to have the same player as the sub two weeks running for match conditioning reasons (see: Hird dropping Davey last week), and we've been unwilling to use the same one twice to begin with. Reckon Armfield....otherwise, your Robbo suggestion also has some considerable merit, especially if Ellard plays

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:34 am 
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MIL wrote:
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Why are people calling for White or Laidler to be dropped? I thought our defence functioned well today. :?
White did a good job on Hurley and as much as Laidler doesn't have any standout features, he commits his body to the contest 100%. We need more blokes with an unconditional attack on the ball , not less.


Great post. Defence was the least of our worries. Some people just get a mindset against a player, and unless he gets BOG he should be dropped.

OUT: Betts, Collins
IN: Ellard, Lucas

Carrots very lucky, ditto Hammer.


Would you rate Bower over White though? You don't need to do something wrong to be dropped, it maybe that there is a better player competing for your spot. White did play well though, but I prefer what Bower can bring.

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