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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:09 pm 
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Do we drop Eddie?

I reckon he could do with a few weeks in the 2's.


I think this depends on how good Prawn Kerr has been in the Ants. I don't know the answer.

I don't think he'll make an impact. Bring in Armfield to nip about and cause problems (or go back/into the middle if need be) and tell Walker to play the game as a small who can make a lead.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:11 pm 
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I don't think he'll make an impact. Bring in Armfield to nip about and cause problems (or go back/into the middle if need be) and tell Walker to play the game as a small who can make a lead.


Agree with this, although I think Army should be in the side regardless, not necessarily as an Eddie replacement.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:18 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
Stamos wrote:
ryan2000 wrote:
Serious Question.....................

Do we drop Eddie?

I reckon he could do with a few weeks in the 2's.


I think this depends on how good Prawn Kerr has been in the Ants. I don't know the answer.

I don't think he'll make an impact. Bring in Armfield to nip about and cause problems (or go back/into the middle if need be) and tell Walker to play the game as a small who can make a lead.


I'm assuming you didn't read my earlier post - will bring it back up again - given Walker smashed Dangerfield last time around, give him the job again? Armfield to the forward line?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:20 pm 
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Stamos wrote:
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I don't think he'll make an impact. Bring in Armfield to nip about and cause problems (or go back/into the middle if need be) and tell Walker to play the game as a small who can make a lead.


Agree with this, although I think Army should be in the side regardless, not necessarily as an Eddie replacement.

I'd agree with that. I think Lucas & Armfield are the first two to be recalled, then Bower & Ellard as opportunities arise.

I don't think there's a good match-up for White given the strength Taylor Walker has shown in marking contests of late.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:28 pm 
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I'm assuming you didn't read my earlier post - will bring it back up again - given Walker smashed Dangerfield last time around, give him the job again? Armfield to the forward line?

I've glanced at it. I'd prefer to keep Walker forward and I've been of that opinion for close to 3 years. We could use either Walker or Armfield as the defensive forward, but I just want Walker to ensure he's providing pressure when the ball hits the deck. Houlihan could not come back faster; I'd like to have us deploy Armfield in defence/midfield and make Betts & Walker more accountable for their performance.

We can use Lucas on Dangerfield as he can thwart him on the ground & in the air. Or we can keep Carrazzo in if he pleads mercy to Ratten. :roll:

Not sure why you've gone so tall?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:01 pm 
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Ellard is out for a specific reason. he wears 35. So if Ellard is going to come in at someone else's expense, Ratts will be dismantling whatever ideal balance for the team he has had until now.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:17 pm 
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The important thing with Adelaide is to stop their run on game from defence. Other teams this year have placed a forward tagger on Johncock with great success & we need to do likewise. Everyone needs to know that Dangerfield will try to burst through tackles & take bounces & our coaches should watch how Port stopped him last week. He is very predictable, but can be very damaging if let loose. A job for Robbo - if he doesn't get the Johncock job. Their all Austalian full back - Rutten - is strong but slow. I would confuse them by putting a smaller & faster player - Betts - at full forward as a leading target, as long as we are not pumping balloons into the forward line again. I realise though that most people want Betts demoted, but pumping high balls to a midget has not helped his cause this year, although he has been down on form by his standards.

Ellard in for Collins is a no brainer.
Henderson can't play that badly again - give him another week or two.
Armfield or Lukas in for Mr Turnover - Carrots.
Bower for White if he is fully fit & raring to go.
Can't understand why people want to dump Laidler. He is being played out of position in my opinion & is doing OK. Look forward to him joining the midfield rotation at some stage.

Any more changes than that would resemble panic stations and we aren't travelling that badly just yet. It is absolutely essential that our forwards don't let Adelaide defenders run it out of their backline. I believe that they will bring in the big Sauce to replace Maric wich is sad for us as Maric is pathetic.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:19 pm 
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ryan2000 wrote:
Serious Question.....................

Do we drop Eddie?

I reckon he could do with a few weeks in the 2's.
I don't think Ratten has any choice but drop him considering what he said last week in regards to Betts.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:26 pm 
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Ellard is out for a specific reason. he wears 35. So if Ellard is going to come in at someone else's expense, Ratts will be dismantling whatever ideal balance for the team he has had until now.

Ellard could contribute more than Collins did in his role. He could also be a good change up from Carrazzo's efforts in possession.

I know I've said otherwise here in the last 7 days, but we have to roll the dice with playing Ellard & Curnow in the same team with people playing like Carrazzo has for the first 4 weeks. Maybe between the two they'll release Judd more.

I'd like McLean in, but he's still working his fitness base up it would seem.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:30 pm 
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drop white? he got the better of Hurley over the 4 qtrs.

Given our reasonably conservative approach to selection, I couldn't see the club making more than 3 changes.

Eddie (had already been warned) and Collins (needs more time and has had two goes at it). For these guys, i'd like to see Lucas and either Armfield or Ellard to come in.

I'd like to see the third change as Bower. At his best, he will add to the tream. Problem is, most defenders played their role against the Bombers. Although Russell made some clear defensive errors, he shouldnt be dropped, however could be used on the wing.

On Saturday, we lost the 1st and last qtrs. Alot of it had to do with run and clearance work.


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Can't understand why people want to dump Laidler. He is being played out of position in my opinion & is doing OK. Look forward to him joining the midfield rotation at some stage.

Can't speak for everyone else but I was merely suggesting that it's something of a 50/50 for White & Laidler as the third defensive tall, should Bower come back. White's definitely spent more time as a key defender than Laidler, so unless you mean Laidler should be played in midfield first and foremost?

Make no mistake, third tall in defence is his best position. He's no midfielder.

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jimmae wrote:
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Ellard is out for a specific reason. he wears 35. So if Ellard is going to come in at someone else's expense, Ratts will be dismantling whatever ideal balance for the team he has had until now.

Ellard could contribute more than Collins did in his role. He could also be a good change up from Carrazzo's efforts in possession.

I know I've said otherwise here in the last 7 days, but we have to roll the dice with playing Ellard & Curnow in the same team with people playing like Carrazzo has for the first 4 weeks. Maybe between the two they'll release Judd more.

I'd like McLean in, but he's still working his fitness base up it would seem.


I agree 100%. Just pointing out what the coach is saying.


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We're gonna kill Juddy before we're ready for a tilt the way it's going.

The MC must lessen the inside role he plays and use him more as an outside playmaker out of defence and on the spread.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:20 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
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Can't understand why people want to dump Laidler. He is being played out of position in my opinion & is doing OK. Look forward to him joining the midfield rotation at some stage.

Can't speak for everyone else but I was merely suggesting that it's something of a 50/50 for White & Laidler as the third defensive tall, should Bower come back. White's definitely spent more time as a key defender than Laidler, so unless you mean Laidler should be played in midfield first and foremost?

Make no mistake, third tall in defence is his best position. He's no midfielder.


He's not a midfielder yet, but his only 21 and has good skills & a good football brain. Down the track who knows ? At 189 cm he will never regularly play key position, and I think that he has enough potential to go on ball at some stage in the future if he continues to develop. He has played less than 10 AFL games, so it is a bit early to pin him to a set position forever. Ratts played back pocket for a few years before becoming an elite midfielder.
White did OK, but is he going to keep a fit and in form Bower out of the side ? I doubt it. How fit & in form Bower is at the moment is up to those who have seen the Bullants over the last two weeks - I haven't. We need him in our team though.

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Laidler is actually around 191-192 rather than 189 cms, or at least he certainly plays about as tall as Thornton and White. Certainly has longer arms, which suits him to a defensive role.

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We're gonna kill Juddy before we're ready for a tilt the way it's going.

The MC must lessen the inside role he plays and use him more as an outside playmaker out of defence and on the spread.


You've got the crowd on your side Rexy, it seems a very popular view, but I'm going to disagree with that one.

Judd's a big man, mature age and is about the best hard-ball extractor in the league. I can't think of anyone better to be in the mix, and it's not like he's the only one in there either. Further, I don't rate Judd's kicking as being all that flash.

Judd, Murphy and Curnow are making a dangerous combination.

Now if they'd just add Ellard they'd make my day.


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I like Laidler, but he's way to one sided and lacking in a side step to be a midfielder.

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