Laidler Jamo Duigan
Bower (Lucas) White Yarran
Russell (Bower) Curnow Scotland
Gibbs Henderson Simpson
Garlett Waite Walker

Warnock Judd Murphy

Robinson, Hampson, Carrots (Ellard), Lucas

1) we need more run off HB (to support Yarran's efforts - is a great strength of the Bombers and Pies) ie Bower or Lucas
2) on saturday while our 1st qtr wasnt good, our last was almost as disastorous ie we won 1 out 9 centre clearances). Consider Ellard vs Carrots (although it will be argued he had 142 DT points)
3) need mids and fwds to work harder - Bummers worked a lot harder up and down the ground (while fwds were not good in the 1st qtr, the supply was delivered under alot of pressure). Half FWDS, Wings, Half Backs are all the same these days.

Hamstrung re Hammers resting position ie on review he is doing ok around the ground, however is a liability up fwd. Yet, until Krueze is right we need him. Therefore, he should start on the bench to minimise time up fwd.

Again Psych, you're destroying our ruck advantage and our speed in the forward 50, to bring zero advantage to the team bar a stopper in defence.

Keep Walker, drop Carrazzo and you're onto something, but I'd really think twice about ditching our second ruck because he's rucking just fine. Russell as a sub is a bit strange; I'd give it to Simmo or Scotland for a rest this week.

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Yeah I've calmed down about Hampson but please keep him in the ruck if he starts at FF again

Hendo/Tbird is a difficult one, Hendo just looked SO out of sorts on Saturday but he was like that last year and improved a fair bit with each game.

Still think Collins and Betts need to go back to 2s, Lucas and Ellard would be obvious replacements.

Bower for sub? White was much better than anticipated last week.

Absolutely!
Laidler and Duigan provide support in this area but after White's performance, we should slot Bower in with both him and Jamo and all three 'talls' offer plenty of flexibility with match-ups and rebound

Will be good to see emu back!

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Saturday's effort was easily Henderson's worst game in a Carlton jumper, make no mistake. He'll improve, but that's an unfair statement about any of his efforts last year.

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Jimmae I have to disagree on this. The advantage we may have in the ruck is outwayed by our lack of options and rotations. Look at Collingwood, they structure up differently when Brown goes on the ball. He also gives them great flexibility. No side is playing 2 PURE ruckman now and being successful. Surely Warnock can handle Maric? Speed in the fwd line is good but if you cant win the ball and generate multiple goal kicking options its no good. Are Collingwood and Geelong or Hawthorn really that quick. We have Garlett & Robbo plus rotating Gibbs, Judd and Murphy through their would help. Watch us against good sides and they have size around the ball and huge rotations through the fwd line and the bench. We seem to be a few steps behind. Poor Judd is being crucified. We also have too many bad kicks/decision makers especially under pressure. Guys such as Carrazzo, Walker, Russell, Hampson need to improve in these areas.

Sorry, I just can't cop this. Did you even watch the game?

Walker was responsible for the smartest piece of play that Carlton had for the whole game.
Marked well on the HFF, about 60-65 out. Ignored leads, including Warnock's to the pocket, put a perfect kick to where only Warnock could mark, about 15-20 out, about a 20 degree angle. Made Warnock run to the spot. Easy goal.
Also had 100% effectiveness for his few possessions, and was ignored on some good leads.

If Walker started in the 21 instead of sub, we would have won.

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Stamos, not sure I agree about Walker in the team and we would've won, but I whole-heartedly agree
with the quality of that possession. It was really smart football.

I wish he was always that smart.

I wonder if we could work out a strategy to use Hampson in the back line when he was resting?
I can't see it off the top of my head, but maybe ....
I don't think you could give him a direct opponent - too risky, but maybe as a spoiling third man up?
Hmm ... that requires a good reading of the game though.
I don't know ... maybe we can just hope he turns it around next week.

Serious Question.....................

Do we drop Eddie?

I reckon he could do with a few weeks in the 2's.

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I think this depends on how good Prawn Kerr has been in the Ants. I don't know the answer.

Definitely, has been poor for a while. Prefer Ellard or Lucas. Garlett can fill small fwd role better anyway.

Well we didn't trade him, he's still on the list.
And he's in our best 21, so he should be in the team.

I dont believe he is in our best 21 and if he is its a sad indictment on our list. Just my opinion.

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Again I half agree.

With due respect to the coaching staff, (realistically I have no idea what they say to him), it seems to me that he
lacks certainty with how he's meant to play. If, say, Waite and Hampson are going up in a pack, I don't think it's his
role to climb up there with them. Even worse to spoil them. Maybe he's gotten carried away with all this "X Factor"
talk.

He's apparently got a big tank - I'd like to see him run and run and run and blow up his opponent/s. If he gets
a chance to leap on his opponents shoulders go for it, but if we've already got >=2 blokes going up then he should
look for the crumb or hang around the 50 or whatever.

MoodyBlue

a) I saw your first attempt to post

b) I'd long before scrutinised this account; not sure what you think you're doing exactly.

Moving on from that, Essendon* are playing two ruckman, as evidenced by Ryder's horrible performance up forward on the weekend. Collingwood don't have a choice and the obsession with Leigh Brown is bizarre; he is neither a good ruckman or a good forward. In fact he's just someone to smash into players to open up the run for Collingwood's mids.

Fremantle - similar issue to Collingwood
Geelong - similar issue again
Gold Coast - two rucks
Hawthorn - two rucks
Melbourne - two rucks
Port - restricted at selection table, have played Stewart 3 games out of 4 despite having Westhoff & Trengrove
Adelaide - play Maric & McKernan and will look at Moran & Jacobs in the coming weeks despite having an athletic type in Walker and a 203 cm forward in Tippet
West Coast - Lynch, Cox & NicNat
Richmond - two rucks at the expense of a forward (albiet through lack of talent after Jack)
Sydney - lack talent at the position but have some top shelf pinch hitters in Goodes & White, hence signing Mumford on awful money
North - injuries and thus hamstrung; Petrie barely able to impact ruck contests.
Bulldogs - two rucks
Lions - two rucks; possibly three if Charman wasn't injured
Saints - two rucks

So that's 11 clubs that play 2 rucks (and I challenge you to tell me which of those isn't a 'pure' ruck), and probably another 5 that would if they could.

Can we please call that myth busted?

Hampson & Russell are not bad kicks or decision makers; Hampson is just a nervous kick at goal. Walker isn't a bad decision maker unless you count flying for marks when outnumbered or when the ball is kicked over his head but he is a wonky field kick.

Carrazzo I agree with, yet you sign off on Walker first.

Armfield's the stopper, BTW.

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