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 Post subject: Re: Is it too soon?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:51 pm 
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Synners thinks (hopes?) we're after Roos
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i hear the big play is on for Paul Roos right now.

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Donstuie wrote:
Synners thinks (hopes?) we're after Roos
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i hear the big play is on for Paul Roos right now.

That would be a no brainer wouldn't it?

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 Post subject: Re: Is it too soon?
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It is difficult nowadays to sort out his genuine mail from his fantasies, that's for sure.

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 Post subject: Re: Is it too soon?
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The Sunday footy show criticized the coaching an MC this morning in respects to game strategy, especially 1st qtr and the selection of certain players, most notably Hendo.

I dare them to come here and do that... :fight:



What would they know? Apparently everything is OK and we're tracking on target assuming we win 12-13 of our next 18 games

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Big 3 weeks ahead for Ratts...

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 Post subject: Re: Is it too soon?
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keogh wrote:

As I have said yonks ago Ratten was virtually handed the job when you compare with the interview process other candidates have to go through. He would make a great under 14s coach.

Our forward structure is a joke. Essendon* have a system of play with a coach who has been there for 5 minutes. We havent got any system with a coach after 4 years.


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 Post subject: Re: Is it too soon?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:03 pm 
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I am undecided on the coaching issue. As Malthouse said in an interview, the strength of your team is the determining factor and list management is not just the coach but many in the club. He said that he found it stupid how the coach was solely measured on win/loss.

I always enjoy going back to the start of the 2007 season. Bomber was a dead man walking. There had been a grating review at Geelong in the off season after a disappointing 2006 and a few people were not happy. Even before the season there was speculation that he was not up to it and when Geelong started the season badly, the newspapers were full with stories about when he would be sacked. Geelong won the flag and Bomber was suddenly a yogi of coaching.

Remember Michael Voss? Everybody on TC wanted to hire him as coach! He has been a disaster. Who says that a Roos would be successful at Carlton? He only has coached one team - who knows if he would fit in. Sydney has shown that they are very good at certain aspects of football management - lots of that outside the coaches responsibility.

Anyway...... success of a football team depends on many factors and some luck - this B&W view of the world on TC is sometimes disturbing. If we had won by one point as we should have - the climate would have been different in here.

Is it Ratts' fault that we have a problem with the lack of quality talls? Kreuzer done a knee, Josh Kennedy was the price to get Judd, Fev we had to get rid off. What if we had the team we have today but Josh and a well behaved Fev in the forward line??

Easy to say, don't bomb it into the 50 = but what do you do when there are no leading forwards? We are using ruckmen as FF's = who else has to do that in the comp? Should we not have given up Josh and had no Judd?

So many questions - so many issues and factors. None of which have anything directly to do with the coach.

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 Post subject: Re: Is it too soon?
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So how's everyone enjoying the season so far?

So many sooky la las here.

If TC was listened to by anyone important we'd have Voss coaching, Rich not Yarran (anyone want to swap now?), Fev would be on our list and not playing, Duigan would have been banished last week, Waite dropped and White wouldn't have got a game.

I here so much about give the kids a game and when they get one they are smashed by those on here for making silly mistakes.

Some of you need to have a look at yourselves.

Until we're winning every game by 10 goals some here will never be satisfied. Could be a long wait.

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 Post subject: Re: Is it too soon?
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Until we're winning every game by 10 goals some here will never be satisfied. Could be a long wait.


Go back and review the Gold Coast threads. People still grumbled when we won by 119 pts....

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sjabc wrote:
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Until we're winning every game by 10 goals some here will never be satisfied. Could be a long wait.


Go back and review the Gold Coast threads. People still grumbled when we won by 119 pts....

Yep, I was one of those. I thought we lairised too much in the 2nd quarter.

But given GC's improved efforts the past couple of weeks, as well as ours, I see more clearly now :thumbsup:

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 Post subject: Re: Is it too soon?
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Donstuie wrote:
Synners thinks (hopes?) we're after Roos
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i hear the big play is on for Paul Roos right now.


It would be neligence on behalf of the club if they didn't at least have a chat to both Paul Roos and Mick Malthouse's management regarding thier plans for next year.

And no MrC I am not saying Ratts should go :smile:

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 Post subject: Re: Is it too soon?
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WA Blue wrote:
So how's everyone enjoying the season so far?

So many sooky la las here.

If TC was listened to by anyone important we'd have Voss coaching, Rich not Yarran (anyone want to swap now?), Fev would be on our list and not playing, Duigan would have been banished last week, Waite dropped and White wouldn't have got a game.

I here so much about give the kids a game and when they get one they are smashed by those on here for making silly mistakes.

Some of you need to have a look at yourselves.

Until we're winning every game by 10 goals some here will never be satisfied. Could be a long wait.



We'll probably have many-a-post like this between now and our 17th premiership in 2031 and then we'll get the very same people saying "I told you you were whinging about nothing!". :wink: :cool:

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 Post subject: Re: Is it too soon?
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Donstuie wrote:
Synners thinks (hopes?) we're after Roos
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i hear the big play is on for Paul Roos right now.



he's not the only one. i brought this up in another post last week after the peter macallum breakfast.
from what i heard Mrs Pratt has made it known to Roos that we'll pay him literally millions and he said he's absolutely not interested in coaching again no matter what the paycheck. now she wants malthouse. apparently. extremely close source though.


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 Post subject: Re: Is it too soon?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:59 pm 
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WA Blue wrote:
So how's everyone enjoying the season so far?

So many sooky la las here.

If TC was listened to by anyone important we'd have Voss coaching, Rich not Yarran (anyone want to swap now?), Fev would be on our list and not playing, Duigan would have been banished last week, Waite dropped and White wouldn't have got a game.

I here so much about give the kids a game and when they get one they are smashed by those on here for making silly mistakes.

Some of you need to have a look at yourselves.

Until we're winning every game by 10 goals some here will never be satisfied. Could be a long wait.



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Laguna Legend wrote:
WA Blue wrote:
So how's everyone enjoying the season so far?

So many sooky la las here.

If TC was listened to by anyone important we'd have Voss coaching, Rich not Yarran (anyone want to swap now?), Fev would be on our list and not playing, Duigan would have been banished last week, Waite dropped and White wouldn't have got a game.

I here so much about give the kids a game and when they get one they are smashed by those on here for making silly mistakes.

Some of you need to have a look at yourselves.

Until we're winning every game by 10 goals some here will never be satisfied. Could be a long wait.



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best post u champ


It was either that or QFT. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Is it too soon?
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WA Blue wrote:
If TC was listened to by anyone important we'd have Voss coaching, Rich not Yarran (anyone want to swap now?), Fev would be on our list and not playing, Duigan would have been banished last week, Waite dropped and White wouldn't have got a game.

While that's true, you've got to factor in we're not privy to a lot of info inside the club.

The coach and the MC know when a player has responded to criticism or a rocket during the week, ala Duigan. Or when one player has demonstrated a superior working knowledge in taking on a key player, ala White. Or who's fit and who's not, who had niggles, how they're managing it.

We're dealing with incomplete information, and we're making calls. The Duigan call was right: Ratten gave him a bake. We just didn't hear what Nick had to say for himself. White was dropped for poor defensive play, and the MC opted to give his experience playing on Hurley a go to re-ignite his form, over sticking with the attacking advantages of Watson.

I'd hope the footy club has more insight, but I'll continue to make calls from week to week, as will many. We're interested in it, and as a group we're not that far off when we break things down and think critically.

And for the record, I'd reckon it was about 50/50 Yarran/Rich at draft time, and most wanted Fev gone after the Brownlow efforts. Not many people had much clue on the coaching situation, but thought Voss was a worthwhile candidate to interview. Calls in hindsight are irrelevant; people are just riding the wave at that point.

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 Post subject: Re: Is it too soon?
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Everyone inside and outside should be challenging ever decision made. That's what makes us successful and not accept mediocrity like others. Once you start making excuses about this, that and other then you become stkilda. We where there and certainly don't want to go back!

To me ratten has done the job so far, whether he or his team is capable to go the next stage, we will see. I'm confident he can but the pressure is mounting, as it should and we should not be expecting anything less.

Big few weeks coming up and even bigger year for a favourite son. Im behind him and supporting him, hopefully the club is as well. We owe him that.


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 Post subject: Re: Is it too soon?
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By the way ... don't want Roos or his game plan at cfc.
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