The simple fact of the matter is that of the last 12 games last year, we won 4, against the 4 bottom teams.

Of the 4 games this year, we have only been able to win against a bottom 4 team from last year, and Gold Coast. We couldn't beat a team with one man down for 3 quarters.

The pattern is becoming damning.

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Bring back the laurel wreath logo!!!

So of the four games we should have won 3 but we have only won 2.5?

MASSIVE pattern that.

Ahem.... a pattern after 4 games and one loss (by the lowest margin of any of their opponents) to the premiers? Not much pattern yet. Would wait a bit with that type of conclusion.

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Perhaps a pattern over the last 16 games?

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Bring back the laurel wreath logo!!!

Great point Verbs. Comprehension is overrated at a time like this,

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Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

If we wanted to finish 12th we'd be doing about as expected. But only Richmond are happy with 12th. personally, I prefer #1.

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How would we finish 12th given we have won 2.5 games and lost 1?

Over 22 that would compute to 14 wins..?

Honestly boys and girls: It's round 4. We have won 2, lost 1, drawn 1. Not too bad from a pure stats point of view.

Yes, we could have played better, yes we have problems in the forward line, yes some of the players are not currently up to it. But really, the panic here is "Richmond like".

Learn history and check how many teams have started seasons really well and then fallen away badly, other the other way around (Geelong 2007 anyone?). The key is to stay close enough to the top and play well late in the season and in the finals (and stay injury free). I would wait a few more rounds before pushing the panic button. If Bower comes back in good form and especially Kreuzer - it can make a huge difference.

So have a couple of and relax. If we beat Crows and Saints in the next 3 weeks (and that should be possible) - Swans is a big ?? - we will be in a very good ladder position and then lets see if we have / can rejigg our forward structure in the mean time. So until then I am sure the club will work on the issues, but no way will they sack the coach. So think positive thoughts and let serenity befall you....

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Aww ... you are spoiling the fun ...

Stop talking sense and let the others have a go ... lol.

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Bit of a masterstroke to choose White to play and to play on Hurley.

I think many folks, myself included, have been critical of our player development, and the club have taken measures to address this with Alan Richardson's appointment and this needs probably two years to judge its outcomes.

Match day reactions/team selections and game strategies, whilst I don't think Ratts get them right at a high enough percentage to be successful, I think he is getting better. He will run out of time with the Judd clock ticking I suspect.

Just on team selection taking the Dons game as an example, most agreed Hendo had to come in, most agreed Duigan should've been dropped, most also thought White was not the right inclusion, most though Collins should be dropped, Armfield or Ellard more likely. He wins some, he loses some. I guess the greats win most.

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With no disrespect meant, where is the sense. Mikkey is speculating that IF we beat Adel and IF we beat StK we're back on track. Well, iIF we win the next 20 games we'll win the 2011 flag????????????????
IF Andrew Collins kicked the goal and Garlett lined up and kicked the goal, we'd win
You seize your chances when they present

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Huhhh?? I was saying it is too early for all this panic and wrist slashing. So IF we win these games as I expect there is no major problem, IF we loose, THEN and only THEN there are reasons for threads like this. Is this really so hard to understand?????

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The Sunday footy show criticized the coaching an MC this morning in respects to game strategy, especially 1st qtr and the selection of certain players, most notably Hendo.

I dare them to come here and do that...

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Strange.

Can't wait to read this thread when we beat the Crows next week.

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"GIBBS."

For me it wasn't ratts, it was the forward line...
Hendo - I understand bringing him in but still needs time and a good run with the ants.
Hammer - why not swap him for Robbie for a bit?! its clear hammer can't yet mark and have the impact we need from him
Waity - trying so hard to do something special instead of actually get his hands on the ball but got better further into the game.

The coaching issue will become more interesting later in the year.

For now - there isnt anybody available who can impress the board that he has the skills that Ratten lacks to take us to a premiership.

So 2.5 wins from 4 will become 4.5 from 6 - and things will be moving along nicely.

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What did they say exactly?

People actually watch that.

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A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty" -Winston Churchill

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