We also had an extra 2 days break...you forgot that one DB....

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Not sure why Carrazzo is getting criticised today (not that it's surprising), one or two bad kicks but was generally good and finished well in the last quarter. 11 tackles as well.

Betts was shocking again, but I don't understand why we never throw him into the midfield to at least give him the chance to have an impact on the game. He is a good clearance player, he has a bit of pace, a "solid" body, throw him into the midfield for a bit! Try something different!

Hampson is a real worry, he just has no impact and his man knows this and can run off him. At least when Warnock was at FF Fletcher had to pay him some respect.

Henderson was terrible but it was his first game for us in 2011 and he can't possibly play any worse than that. I just wish he had a bit more mongrel about him; a bit more presence. Each to their own but I've never understood the point of of the Bronx Cheers either, they are hardly going to help his confidence and therefore his performance.

We should have won today especially given the circumstances but two points are better than none and might end up being valuable.

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no Fletcher caused the stumble because he reacted faster than Garlett expected... But it is more the moment. Stop. Sometimes that is the wise thing to do.It is knowing when it is and isn't that is separating us ( 1 of the things I should say) from the good sides.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

It was a terrible effort by the boys. Having them down through injuries, should've run over the top.
2 weeks in a row now Collins has had terrible games.
Carazzo's disposal was average at best
Henderson was underdone and not match fit.
Would've subbed off Collins for Walker.
Interesting to see what changes are made next week.
Warnock seems to look better in more passages of play each week.
Missing Krueze though

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It looked to me like he played on and stumbled because Fletcher was closer than he thought.

I don't hate him for it - it was dumb, but we did a lot of dumb things today.

Collins is so far out of his depth it isn't funny...

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Carlton. Yes, Carlton are into the grand final!!!
- Drew Morphett, after 1999 prelim final

You can't blame Kade Simpson for that loss.
If it wasn't for him he would have lost by 6.


Today highlighted to me that we are still an unbalanced team.
Some absolutely FANTASTIC competitive players who every other team in the comp would love to pounce on.
But we also have some massive gaps that have never been addressed, and we have a high reliance on "project" players.

We need to be a more even team, with contributors all over the ground.

As long as we are playing Hampson and Henderson, we have a non-functioning forward setup that is relying on Waite and crumbers.
Right now they are a liability to us. Yes Hampson is improving in the ruck, but he is still streets behind Kreuzer and Warnock around the ground.

I think our back half has improved a lot, but it's still too easy in our forward half to break down our play and rebound against us.
Whoever made the point about Fletcher killing us was spot on.

We could not keep the ball locked in the forward 50 to save ourselves.



That has to be chalked up as a loss.
And to me personally it has moved Ratts down another notch in my esteem.

People can make flippant sarcastic jokes about "SAKC RATTS" and pass it off as hysteria, but really if we can't beat them with an extra player (not to mention that it was their best runner in Winderlich), then it makes us look really bad.

It's not the end of the world, we have winnable games ahead, but it's a definite disappointment.

I'll go he if it was 2 bad kicks - in fact I bet he did about 4 great kicks and the rest either went to them or to a contest that favoured them. Yes he tackled - he bleeds for us. Yes he did some great things but he can only play backpocket and he must be instructed not to run past or replace him now.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Collins was our most influential player today - for all the wrong reasons.
He is like a slower version of Brett Peake.

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IMHO? If Collins does turn out to be no good we have lost little. Grigg was, and always will be, a butcher of the ball

Today said a lot about that group of players, not much of it was good.

2 points lost.

We should've had more scoreboard pressure in the 2nd and 3rd quarters which would've blown the winds out of the Essendon* sails. Fitness isn't a problem when your within reach, believe you can win and have adrenalin running through your veins.

This is two points I never had us getting in 2011, at least it's a positive.

Did you see how well Grigg played last night?

I just hope Collins comes good.. He needs to go back and get some form. I'd rather see Kane in the team.

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OK I will accept criticism when he takes that sort of ball as a set shot and misses then? Hindsight has many eyes and that frenetic play on of Garlett is why he is our currently most dangerous forward.

Agree 99%.

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THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

Fletcher is an absolute freak, a sensational player.

Shattered with the outcome. 21 players vs 20 - a top 6 team should've won comfortably.

Today might prove to be a defining moment in the careers of some of our players.

Duigan was a positive - getting used to the step up to this level - good on him he's a real goer.

Game should have been wrapped up in the second quarter instead we kicked 4 goals 7 or whatever it was.

Grigg raped us regardless.
We were totally up against it, very hard to win from that situation.

I'm not unhappy that we got Collins, but FFS he needs to earn his spot.

A team can only play as well as those that are responsible for putting it together let them. Some will never harden the hell up because they are just not that type. I can imagine that knowing a team's limitations can put pressure on certain types of players. Good coaching will help enormously but it's not absolutely everything.

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Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

I did and he was good but still not the player that we actually need. Grigg has no decision making ability in my mind and is a poor kick if one judges more than just kicking forward. He is another poor draft choice in my mind where we went for the athlete and not the footballer. I am similarly unsure about Collins but don't think Grigg provided our answers either.
As for Kane Lucas? Well I do opine similarly!