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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:44 am 
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waite plays his best football as a backman? on what basis do we qualify that........?

up until 2010, i dont recall him ever settling into one position.

since Fev's departure and his return from Knee reco, he has averaged 2 goals a game as a mobile forward. In a reconstructed forward, i would have thought he has played an enormously valuable role as a forward.

now back to measuring his success as a backman?


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Discussion requires more !@#$'n smash 'em.

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Discussion requires more !@#$'n smash 'em.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:20 am 
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london blue wrote:
waite plays his best football as a backman? on what basis do we qualify that........?

up until 2010, i dont recall him ever settling into one position.

since Fev's departure and his return from Knee reco, he has averaged 2 goals a game as a mobile forward. In a reconstructed forward, i would have thought he has played an enormously valuable role as a forward.

now back to measuring his success as a backman?


He was in all australian form as a backman prior to his knee.

If you took the best key forward from every club Waite wouldn't stack up so well.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:22 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
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i dont understand the obsession with Waite to the backline..........


Because he played his best football there. As a forward he's inconsistent and if we're being honest mediocre.


He was moved forward again because he was inconsistent and often beaten down back. He is OK when playing as a loose back but his footskills and decision making dont afford him that luxury.
We need to get used to the fact that JW is a forward and that he will perform well at times and poorly at others. (often both occuring within the one quarter) :razz:


He was moved forward because we traded Fev.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:27 am 
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I completely understand the frustration over Hampson as he is shitting me too but there's no way the MC will drop him this week. Cannot go into this game with 1 ruck! Hille will most likely play and if he doesn't that Bellchambers bloke has been OK this year.

Having said that if Hampson has another stinker he might find himself in the Bullants the following week, a run against lesser opposition might be needed for him.

Fingers crossed we get a decent rub with the umpires this week after last week's shocker.

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I hope Ratts is firing them up a bit more behind closed doors!


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:39 am 
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Looks like Shaun Hampson is out for 3-4 weeks with a broken finger. He had a couple of screws put in. Very bad news as it looks like Hille will be back for the Scum. Wills Levi come into the side then? You heard it first here..


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:47 am 
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TheGame wrote:
london blue wrote:
waite plays his best football as a backman? on what basis do we qualify that........?

up until 2010, i dont recall him ever settling into one position.

since Fev's departure and his return from Knee reco, he has averaged 2 goals a game as a mobile forward. In a reconstructed forward, i would have thought he has played an enormously valuable role as a forward.

now back to measuring his success as a backman?


He was in all australian form as a backman prior to his knee.

If you took the best key forward from every club Waite wouldn't stack up so well.

If you put him on the best key forward from every club Waite wouldn't stack up so well.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:48 am 
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The OUTS should read: Carrazzo, Hampson

The problem is they won't drop these two despite being a liability. Yes, even Hammer, our new Adrian DeLuca. When he takes marks its accidental, and when he kicks goals its because he closed his eyes and prayed.

I hope he now comes out and makes an idiot of my comments on the weekend.


He doesn't need to!



I agree with tekno.

Hammer is an amazing athlete, but right now, he's not much more than that.
I doubt we'd drop him before Kruz comes back, but in saying that, he's got much to improve on B4 he's getting games over other talls.
Carrazzo?..….... Well hes just got to go full stop!!!


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:52 am 
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BLUESBLITZ wrote:
Looks like Shaun Hampson is out for 3-4 weeks with a broken finger. He had a couple of screws put in. Very bad news as it looks like Hille will be back for the Scum. Wills Levi come into the side then? You heard it first here..

Great so he's definitely playing. Cheers.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:05 am 
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jimmae wrote:
TheGame wrote:
london blue wrote:
waite plays his best football as a backman? on what basis do we qualify that........?

up until 2010, i dont recall him ever settling into one position.

since Fev's departure and his return from Knee reco, he has averaged 2 goals a game as a mobile forward. In a reconstructed forward, i would have thought he has played an enormously valuable role as a forward.

now back to measuring his success as a backman?


He was in all australian form as a backman prior to his knee.

If you took the best key forward from every club Waite wouldn't stack up so well.

If you put him on the best key forward from every club Waite wouldn't stack up so well.


No sh!t, I said he plays his best football in the backline not CHB or FB.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:08 am 
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TheGame wrote:

He was in all australian form as a backman prior to his knee.



He was definitely playing as a utility that year. Played just as much forward and a bit in the midfield as well.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:13 am 
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No sh!t, I said he plays his best football in the backline not CHB or FB.

So you want him to hang back as a loose man. That's not how footy works any more. That means he's either third tall or in the midfield.

He plays FF rotating through to CHF now, and rolls down to CHB. That's fine, and he kicks 2 goals a game at the moment. How is that not a good return?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:14 am 
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Sin City wrote:
TheGame wrote:

He was in all australian form as a backman prior to his knee.



He was definitely playing as a utility that year. Played just as much forward and a bit in the midfield as well.


He was playing as a sweeper in defence rebounding up the ground then he did his knee around rd 8 or 9.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:14 am 
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moshe25 wrote:
teknodeejay wrote:
The OUTS should read: Carrazzo, Hampson

The problem is they won't drop these two despite being a liability. Yes, even Hammer, our new Adrian DeLuca. When he takes marks its accidental, and when he kicks goals its because he closed his eyes and prayed.

I hope he now comes out and makes an idiot of my comments on the weekend.


He doesn't need to!


Because he is a superior player or because he gets a gig no matter what?

I digress, though. If Hampson can't mark it then it's more important for Betts and Garlett to be at the fall, however Hampson isn't even bringing the ball down to the front of the pack. With his size and frame there should be no excuses for him to either mark or place the ball to his rovers.

I don't think I'm being too harsh on the guy. He has a discernable advantage that is a requirement if Carlton are to push for top 6 honors.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:16 am 
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jimmae wrote:
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No sh!t, I said he plays his best football in the backline not CHB or FB.

So you want him to hang back as a loose man. That's not how footy works any more. That means he's either third tall or in the midfield.

He plays FF rotating through to CHF now, and rolls down to CHB. That's fine, and he kicks 2 goals a game at the moment. How is that not a good return?


Like I said he's a mediocre forward, not bad but not great either.

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TheGame wrote:
Sin City wrote:
TheGame wrote:

He was in all australian form as a backman prior to his knee.



He was definitely playing as a utility that year. Played just as much forward and a bit in the midfield as well.


He was playing as a sweeper in defence rebounding up the ground then he did his knee around rd 8 or 9.


Not all the time, he was playing as a utility. Had a few games where he played forward the whole game.


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For years we have watched them run the ball from half back straight through the corridor while we stuck to our gameplan and got done.
For that reason Essendon* is one team we always find hard to beat.
I had this one pencilled in for a win but with Bellchambers getting the hitouts and Watson on fire, the clearances don't look so easy any more.

This is a danger game and we can't afford the debacle we had last year when we let them get over us in Rd 3.

Anything less than last week's effort and intensity and this site will melt on Saturday night.

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