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That's brilliant by CallMeCake.

To further that point, this is the same Bendigo Bombers that we smashed to the tune of 75 points last week. Perhaps we should utilise a little of this promising depth.

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For round 4 it's currently:

FB: Laidler Jamison Watson
HB: Yarran Bower Russell
CC: Gibbs McLean Simpson
HF: Robinson Waite Collins
FF: Betts Walker Garlett

RR: Warnock Judd Murphy

Int: Hampson Curnow White
Sub: Thornton

So the general public has NFI for the most part.

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..in the first two rounds, Gibbs was finding plenty of space, in fact i was surprised at how he keeps getting free, in the middle of the ground.. ..huge numbers of uncontested ball and I50 and assists.. in round 3 he was given a specific role vs pendles, and i reckon he did very well.. ..was also allowed loose later on the match..

..the main problem that i have with your wish of Gibbs across hbf is how much you want his game to revolve around creativity and less defense.. ..he might be great getting loose ball across hbf, but i much prefer his onball game to be a good split of defensive and attacking center work, and how so much of what you want him to achieve across hbf revolves around loose uncontested creative work.. ..every defender's game first revolves around beating their opponent, then creating run and drive when able.. ..an opposing coach just needs to direct footy traffic thru gibbs man to nullify any creativity from gibbs.. ..he's a smart footy player, but not super quick to burn off any defensive fwds placed on him..

..and ultimately, we simply dont have anywhere near enough quality rotating thru the middle to stick the gibblet on a hbf..

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our midfield rotation is as good if not better than anyone else

Monfries to nancy-prance his way to 6 goals this week. Reimers to kick about two or three and celebrate like he's just won his team the Grand Final.

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"GIBBS."

..not sure it is.. ..good top end talent, but 3 star mids is a bit rich when gibbs is yet to have enough midfielder games to cement him being a star mid tag, and even less when we play him across hbf..

judd
murphy
crazy mitch
curnow
scotland
simpson
carrazzo

..our problem is we hardly rotate our small fwds thru there, or our hbf's.. ..we dont regularly rotate betts, or russell, or walker, garlett, or yarran etc etc.. ..we rotate our mids mostly thru the wings and bench, maybe a touch thru hff..

..we have a good list of players capable of rotating through the midfield, yes.. ..who we actually rotate through there regularly, is a whole other matter entirely..

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I think he a good defender. I cant remember anyone getting goals on him. He reads the play well and is good in the air. Also if the coach wants them to go through his man then that will open it up big time Yaz or it could go the other way around.

I dont think gibbs was that effective against the tigers . He was good but nothing that could not be replaced. I reckon he would have saved us a bunch of goals in defense. No point mentioning the GC game. They flooded back and he sat behind the ball getting plenty of touches.

I dont think he is a bad on baller i just think from a team point of view he would be more value at HBF where we can really use his attributes. I think he should want to play there. He wants to play onball and i reckon he deserves a chance to prove he can do it.
Lets hope it works for him and the team.

Carazzo always comes out of a bad run by playing a terrific defensive game on someone - he must respond well to the challenge.

I would throw down the challenge to him to run with Watson everywhere he goes.

Wouldn't mind seeing Henderson come back in for Thornton. That would probably be the only change. I think Bower is at the stage with his legs where he needs multiple weeks in the VFL to prove he's physically able.

So that's it for me, one change.

In: Henderson
Out: Thornton

If we bring the pressure we brought last week again this week, I see no reason why we can't beat Essendon*. The only team they've played this year who were approaching something like their best form, they lost to. Tha said, if we don't bring our best they'll have a party.

What a huge game- and what a great point of reference to again gauge which direction we are tracking in with our current off field set up. Should be no excuses against a side with the same personnel to the one we disposed of by 13 goals last year.

Want to see Gibbs aim for 10 tackles and 10 contested possessions and if he does that he can have as many fancy pants meaningless dinky chips back and forth while free on the backline as he likes, and if the MC tell him to play a negative role or to play like Houla he should tell them to get stuffed and tell them he is the second most talented player on the list and he is going to help the most talented lead from the front. If we need a hard tag get Carrazzo on the job. You don't take your talented players out of the play for the opposition.

We badly need a forward line that doesn't consist of Jeff Garlett and 5 spuds. They need to run contest and tackle. At present Garlett is the only one genuinely willing and maybe able to do that. If Hammo is up there for heaven's sake let him play to his strengths. He is tall, awkward and fast, he struggles to judge long balls and jumps in a pack. Get him to lead and use his size and pace, but mainly use him as a ruckman. He is agile as a ruckman, but not as a forward, and his contested marking is weak. When it hits the ground he is out of the contest.

We had lots of passengers ag. the Pies yet still only lost by some strong congested crumbing goals. This is a test against a side we were well ahead of last year. Let's try and win it.

We have to win, the Hird lovefest is sickening now. If they beat us he will be elevated to Christ like levels.

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L.M 35-06

Laidler Jamo Duigan

Russell Watson Yarran

Simmo Murph Scotland

Collins Waite Garlett

Betts Hendo Walks

Warnock Judd Murph

Hammer Curnow Robbo Sub:Bower

In: Hendo & Bower
Out:Thornton & Carrots

Hendo served his VFL stint and should be selected.
Bower to sub on and play attacking HBF, ease back into a game. Watson done to well not to take KP post.
Carrots has given away to many stupid frees and had too many clangers to keep spot. Players pushin for selection and he's not done as much as others to retain spot.

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Haven't posted for many moons, but the worrying stat for me from Friday's game was the number of tackles laid especially by our senior players. We are improving but to take it to the next level players need to be made aware that their intensity just isn't at the same level as the great sides. I know we matched Collingwood's tackle count on this occasion, but we needed to be ferocious to have a chance, especially when we were always going to be struggling in defense. We will get murdered by the Dons if this happens...

Simpson 1 tackle
Gibbs 2 tackles
Carazzo 0 tackles
Warnock 0 tackles
Hampson 0 tackles
Murph 3 tackles (not too bad)
Russell 0 tackles

If Judd can lay 8, Curnow and Robinson 5, Scotland, Betts, Walker (1/2 of footy), Waite and Duigan 4, I cannot see how the others possibly could not find more instances to put the opposition under pressure.

When we tackle hard we beat sides.

Sydney doubled our tackle count yesterday. In the ruck Mumford laid 10 tackles, Bolton 19 and Jack 12. 13 of their 22 players laid 4 or more tackles, many of them a lot more. Granted Sydney does not play our style of footy, but they've continued to beat running sides over the years with continued pressure from arguably a less talented list.

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Excellent states Preacher.

Send this over to MC pronto...

We'll need to tackle the sh-t out of the scum this week.

And just quietly how bad was that strip they were wearing yesterday....... Sadly they played pretty well. (barffff...)

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i think only BV has nailed it so far

we get sucked into the ball carrier far too often and have 3 or more players get sucked into a contest while the other teams smarter players sprint and spread into space and when we lose the contest the other team is away

its like our players get told in the meeting that they have to be agressive and they have to tackle and they have to apply pressure

so they all just single mindedly run out and all want to attack the ball carrier - there doesnt seem to be any thought behind the way we defend - we defend very poorly as a team - our players appear stupid quite often

its the easy , lazy option to just hurl yourself at the ball carrier or work to the edge of a contest - much harder to work both ways and to sprint to defend space or to defend the opponent who is working hard to run off you - we have a lot of lazy dumb footballers who get suckered in only to watch a handball go over their head or past them to their opponent who is sprinting away from them

if we continually get sucked into contests or have 3 players running at the ball carrier against Essendon* we will get murdered

Essendon* are too quick and their players work hard to sprint to space - we will be left looking like idiots

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Those would be the stats of a player that was regularly getting to the ball in a stoppage, 1st or 2nd in.

Is that the role you want to see Bryce playing?

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St Kilda seem to forget how to structure their defence and the Bombers just waltzed through. Essendon* took Fisher out of the game and the rest of their gumby defenders appeared down; the Bombers, once in possession, were pretty sure of making it into their 50.

Carlton need to control the clearances and ensure we can block them if they win the clearance. Ellard will come in to take on Watson - he did well last year in stints on him. Id suggest a tagteam between Ellard and Carrazzo, but we'll need to watch when Watson goes forward as he has an inch on Carrazzo and 2 on Ellard.

Henderson must come in. We needed a double prong marking team to get the ball forward last week and didnt have it, instead relying on run and the brilliance of garlett. Henderson needs to be at CHF and switch around with Waite as and when required. Waite will do well against the Bombers. Real question is here whether we play the resting ruck up forward and try to stretch them or will Fletcher just be too good for them. Its risky to go in too tall against the Bombers.

In defence we need a Joseph or a Tuohy or an Armfield in my view - Duigan isnt close enough at this stage.

In: Armfield, Ellard, Henderson
Out: Thornton, Walker or Collins, Russell (injured) (dont know this for sure but something isnt right)

Bower will be coming in so we need to factor this into our ins and outs

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I'd bring Ellard in for Carrots and Hendo for Thornton.

I'd like to fit Bower in somewhere but I'm always a bit nervous when he gets the ball and runs around like a headless chook.

Armfield must come in to negate the Bombers supposed pace.