Not even Collingwood can match up on Jeffy.

Some simply appalling umpiring decisions against us. Not saying they cost us the game but @#$%&! they were soft. One against Russell in 2nd and one going to Shaw in the 3rd in particular. Not surprised some of the players were cracking the shits.

Where did Murph go in the second half?

Their loose man in defence picked off way too many passes.

Some good signs and some not so good signs. Need to play on more, we mess it up when we slow it down or we let them get players back with no options.
But, we were taking more contested marks than normal, and we didn't lose our shit completely when down.

Gotta flog the Bombers next week or back to square 1.

how often did you see a collingwood player come up with a clearance from the centre bounce or a throw in?
basically every single time. too many players standing around waiting for it to be handballed to them.

Personally I think it wasn't just the last 20 minutes of the first half that cost us, it was failing to capitalise on the good work early in the third. We should have won that term convincingly, and instead we took the foot off the pedal. A lot of fumbled football and an unwillingness to go hell for leather at the contested ball and force the Pies to react to a disruption to their setup and systems of play.

Aside from that, I really, really cannot stress enough that Duigan is proving himself to be weak link in our back line at this point. He's gone from lacking agility, to lacking agility and smashing into his own players at critical moments, to all of the above and not willing to run back the other way when required. He's not a man-on-man defender 70% of the time at this level because opponents will smash him, but he's not playing a zone properly either. He needs to go and work on his lateral movement, because at the moment he has none.


Not even remotely true. Waite did a fair bit tonight, roamed around 3/4 of the ground on the roll down (perhaps too much) and worked hard to fly for many a grab. Didn't waste a shot on goal and didn't snuff anyone out with stupid aggression.

Good game from Jarrad, and tired of hearing from all and sundry that it wasn't.


We didn't pick anyone in the 2009 PSD... other than that Lucas & Hendo are a chance next week. White was rightly dropped and Davies & Kerr will be handy as the medium defender & HF when called upon.

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How was Leon Davis throwing his weight around in the last quarter?

Mate you JUST came on as being sub, @#$%&! off.

Always viewed this match as Part 1---was hoping to win but, and I hate to say this , wasn't gutted by the loss (which i usually am).

Part 2- Essendon---we must win or else all the good work and respect tonight will be lost.

But for 10 minutes tonight....

Don't like to pot anyone but, sadly, Carrots is our litmus test. When he is not in our best 22, we will have arrived.

oh and @#$%&! dreadlocks and a bumfluff mo !?

you're a penis pendlebury

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Not too bad a preformance, but basic skill errors at cruical stages killed us.. They made us pay every time, and got a lot of cheap goals from our stuff ups, whereas we had to work hard for ours.
- The two out of bounds on the fulls from Simmo and Garlett in the 2nd, the missed set shot by Judd at a cruicial stage of the game when we needed a captains goal, and Warnock's missed set shot hurt us... They were all gettable goals!!
- Duigan seemed to struggle with the pace of the game at times.
- Once again, Bryce Gibbs went missing in a big game when the heat was on.
- Eddie Betts and Andy walker, as a senior members of the squad these days, should be embaressed by their game tonight.
- What infuriated me the most, and more then usual, is the man whose name surely MUST BE Italian for turnover.. Carazzo... I'm sick of people making excuses for this guy... Still makes too many simple errors.. As long as hes still getting a regular senior game, we'll never be a serious threat.
- Those saying Thoirnton had a good game.. He had 8 kicks, 4 of which were inaffective.... Enough said...
- Hammer is only getting a game due to the K-Man being injured. He is totally inaffective up forward and his ruck work isnt that crash hot either.

The good thing we can take out of it was that:
- Watson did as well as you could expect from a 2 gamer...
- Ed Curnow also showed that he can deliver on the big stage... Surely now people have ot acknowledge that we've found ourselves a wee ripper in young Ed.
- We only lost due to one poor quarter
- With Kreuzer, Hendo, Bower, Houla and McLean still to come back into the mix, we've still got room for improvment...

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not many people who watch footy - really get footy do they?

like really get footy and understand it?

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Agree with this somewhat; our ruckman do a good job winning the tap, but we do a horrible job of working to it. It's quite clear Warnock knows exactly where he's sending the ball, but some of our mids stop and expect it to be hit down their throats. You play to a receiving zone, not a direct tap, or you can @#$%&! off because you're no good to anyone waiting for the silver spoon in this day and age of football.

Again, we lost out because we couldn't get on our bike and spread when it counted. And we again avoided the corridor through blinkered play. We kicked backward through blinkered play. Take a few risks and try and scope a few options when moving the ball on, and you might just open up something. Be bold with the switch and move it quickly, then be prepared to dart it back through the corridor as it will open up.

Run hard, run smart; don't overcommit to anything and back your team mates, but be ready to get involved and support them when called upon. It might sound like two polarising views, but it's not: sometimes you sit back and be ready to cover, sometimes you get stuck in and put your shoulder to the wheel. Knowing when is an art form we have repeatedly failed at.

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ok i'll be serious now

that game by us was attrocious

blah blah less than 5 goals - competitive - only a 10 minute patch in the 2nd quarter cost us

BULL SHIT !

that was woeful structure , woeful planning , woeful tactics

still such negative bullshit

still such soft play

still such dumb play

still such lazy play

but is ok cos it was less than 5 goals - and the differential in the stats line was probably within the KPI benchmarks

ya know it was collingwood , they are invincible and all

pats on the backs all round

plenty to be excited about - still have your bowers and your kreuzers and your hendos to come back

cheers

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

I don't want to blame umpires, cos we got a couple our way too, but 3 come to mind that were really piss poor momentum killers.

The holding the ball decision followed by 50 metre penalty when we had tied it up in our forward line (by the same peanut who paid the deliberate rushed behind last week no less) was just dumb

The Gibbs holding the ball after Robbo's spoil with Heath Shaw grabbing him around the neck to hold it in was pathetic and wrong.

Finally the play on not 15 metre mark to Collins when Thornton snapped it was again wrong.

All three were in the 3rd quarter when we had all the momentum and all 3 were paid in our forward line.

Is this why we lost??? No. but inept and $hit umpiring is not getting any better. @#$%&! off Geischen you clown

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yeah and this too

and @#$%&! channel 7 as well

like hard

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

wow.

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thats what i thought

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Carrazzo was poor. 8 clangers, gives away clumsy free kicks etc etc.

Duigan gets the benefit of the doubt learning the pace of the game re his decision making, but hoping that his hands get cleaner as he's fumbled a lot in his first 3 weeks. Unfortunately I see more Simon Fletcher than Andy McKay thus far.

Yarran, GarTlett, Watson, Laidler, Curnow, Jamison, Robinson all good. Obviously miss Hendo, Kreuzer and Bower. Imagine if Collingwood were missing Jolly, Tarrant and Cloke. We'd never hear the end of it. Also think there is a spot for at least one of Ellard, Mclean or Armfield somewhere.

Premierships are generally won by your 23-27 year old players. Look at some of our experienced players and what they gave.

Thornton - 162 games
Waite - 132
Walker - 104
Betts - 121
Carrazzo - 123

These guys should be nearing elite by now not still questioning their role in the side, or whether they in fact should even be getting a game.

....added to guys that didn't play Mclean 100, Houlihan 195 as well as Gibbs, Murphy, Simpson and Russell between 90-130 games who were all down meant that too much again on the shoulders of Judd and the youth.

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The thing that is really pissing me off is that all I have heard post game everywhere is Collingwood were off their game blah blah blah. @#$%&! off. Collingwood played as well as we allowed them to play. They weren't at their best because we matched them for much of the game. We challenged them, and they were too good on the night. If it had been those black and red sucks, they would have beentalked up as pushing the premiers all the way.

Credit where credit is due. Carlton put in a good effort, and have improvement in them. They played a full strength Collingwood side that many say can't be beaten this year. FFS give them a break.

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Were you at the game??

Watched this game with more interest than any other for maybe last 5 years.
A litmus test, in oh so many ways.

In the end, lots of good to come out of the game, albeit a loss which in reality
was distinctly winnable bar some basic get goal side defensive errors and the
obligatory absolute howling clangers by umps at very inopportune times.

Buddys cousin announced himself to all and sundry he has gone way past Betts.
Yarran delivered.
Second best game i have seen Jamison play.
Watson can hold his head up, will be a weapon quicker than expected.
If you boo Judd, then you cant appreciate a superstar of the game.
Oh, re the above line, you probably have no teeth and watched game on day release.

As to where to from here, i think you put Kreuzer and Henderson into that team
tonight instead of Hampson/Walker/Thornton (take your pick) and that changes things.
Add Bower and maybe Armfield or Lucas for DEFINITELY Carrazzo and another
and then you get a even more improved dynamic from our perspective.
Those maggotts do not have players of that quality to come into the side.

Given the above, the team needs to be collectively smarter too.
The one thing about those pricks that impresses me is that they ALWAYS support
their team mates EVERY single contest in EVERY and any way they can.
Majority of our players havent mastered this yet, until they do Flag is a pipedream.

Next week is a big game for the club, and i daresay a lot of players in our team.
How the whole club takes on next week could shape our year, even this bloody early.

WE ALL KNOW THE DONS ARE SHIT.
The players must deliver a win next week, or, well i dont want to think about the OR !!

Oh, and i might go POSTAL if we lose as well !!
As for now im quite calm, if you can ever be that losing to those germs tonight !!

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Very disappointed in the loss but I reckon that game was a massive education for a lot of our youngsters.

For us to beat them we had to focus and work our guts out for 4 quarters and we did for 3 and a bit. You don't give away 4 goal leads to a side like that.

This was a very young and inexperienced Carlton team missing a few key players. Next time we play them we will roll them.

Jarryd Blair is an annoying little shit and a cheat to boot. I henceforth dub him a little Karmichael Hunt.

Our biggest issue has been, is currently and will be for the remainder of the season is playing four quarters. We have the talent in the squad we just have to be able to put the foot down at the start of the game and keep it down the whole way.

We do that we are top 4.

I don't like that we got bogged down bringing the ball back in so often and could not break that by putting the ball under the arm, running 20 and kicking through there zone to a created advantage.

Next week will be a nervous tester. I hope we go head to head with pace and have a massive shoot out.

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