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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:37 pm 
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I know it was only Richmond but please remember we had no Kruezer, Jamieson, Bower, Henderson, Ellard and for most of the game Waite.

They were at full strength and we smashed them on the inside 50's.

Need to reassess our thinking on the sub.....maybe O'Hailpin would have been more flexible rather than another runner.

New boys did well....Curnow....WOW!!! :thumbsup:

A lot to work on but we have the four points now let's get ready for next week.

GO BLUES!!!!




Edit to add our first choice ruckman.....how could I have left him out :donk: :donk: :donk:


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:38 pm 
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Mil Hanna wrote:
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On the radio they are saying that Waite could be in trouble for kicking. Did anyone see this? Anything in it?

Plenty. 2-3 minimum IMO. He really is a !@#$%& idiot sometimes.


Agree with the idiot statement, but 2-3 weeks? I doubt it.

Reprimand maybe?

With Jarrad's record? No way. The contact itself would have anyone in trouble, let alone someone with Jarrad's history. We should prepare to not have him against GC and possibly Collingwood.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:38 pm 
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On the radio they are saying that Waite could be in trouble for kicking. Did anyone see this? Anything in it?


Maybe. Was a horse kick to the groin, Richmond fella replied with a kidney punch. Who knows how the tribunal will think of it'


8 weeks for the horse kick that didn't connect. 93 activation points for the kidney punch that did connect.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:40 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:45 pm 
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Thoughts from the game:

waite - no case to answer.
He may need to give evidence for the rough conduct that he recived however - worse than the jamo bump in a way as it was no where near the ball.

a few things that were dissapointing -

we were well short from our best team and our 'structure' (going to get sick of that word).

No Jamo - First choice FB
No Bower First choice CHB
No Waite for a half - CHB/CHF/FF
No Hendo - CHB

thats a big wack out of our normal structure.
In hindsight Waston should have been given first crack at a Key defensive post - guess waite was supposed to be the back up plan.

Thorton and White have never been and never will be key defenders and both afre out classed by laidler as a third man up.

No TALK!

basic basic mistakes - numerous occasions several carlton boys up in the same making contest spoiling the ball - the opposite seemed to occur at the other end when jumping jack was invloved.

the number of chest marks he took with a carlton defender up his backside was shameful.

Not sold on Duigan - YET. needs to work on game sense, decision making, tempo etc at an AFL level - will reserve judgement.

we never sheppard.



but after all that and we still won. we should have been 45 up at half time and richmond took their chances while we went through the motions.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:49 pm 
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You take the two first choice key defenders , your two first choice key forwards and your best ruckman/forward out of any team and they are going to struggle with structure.

Having said that kicking for goal is a real issue, the game should of been over by half time

Wasnt the best game we have played but we got the job done with tough injuries to cover


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:50 pm 
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keogh wrote:
I have kept pretty quiet


So here it goes

Ratten has to go
He wont but he should because he is !@#$%& clueless

heres why
Watson should have played but he is 18 so he didnt go figure

White is a third stringer backman but was given the task on Riewoldt go figure again

A half fit Henderson is better than Hammer being our key marking forward target

Walker's best possie is CHB pure and simple 2 goals ok but he is better at CHB .He has no idea as a forward

Yarran is the ultimate confidence player so why no move him earlier. How many times does this happen with Ratten

As usual some individual brilliance from the brothers got us over the line with some help from some common tiggies mistakes
Carrazzo as a defence forward. the guy should be in the guts. Pure and simple.

Bryce Gibbs does not go into a pack

Marc Murphy's skills havent improved
From last year we havent improved at all.
No structure in the third


If your happy with this win your delusional


Agreed
I have no idea where our players position themselves but this is what I see most weeks
A forward line that either doesn't have a metre of space to move OR only has opposition defenders (3-4) against maybe one small forward
A backline where virtually every forward entry by the opposition makes me nervous. one on ones with no support. Flowered if I know where the players are. Last time I read the rules, it's 18 against 18
Bryce Gibbs does not impact games. For all of you with an undeniable man crush on him, you need to start accepting this
Shaun Hampson still has no idea about the game. How long must we wait
Yarran needs to rotate b/w back centre and forward. Ratten will make him too predictable at hb
Forget scoring shots, our injuries or the opposition. Our 'structure' is a dog's breakfast
Robinson bleeds blue. don't drop him

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:54 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:57 pm 
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I think if the boys had kicked straight we would have won the match very early on. We really did dominate the match, the Tigs accuracy and our lack there of made this match a very tight affair. With us 14 points down going into the final term we could well have dropped our bundle but the boys showed heart and dug deep. We got the win as a reslut. Gold!!! 4 points is magic when the prospect late on was 0.

I don't think we should press the panic button. There were some good signs and it was only round one. We had a few good players out who will return in the coming weeks. If we can improve and keep winning it is all good.

Go Carlton - makes my week better when you get up. Love the Blues!!!


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:57 pm 
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some thoughts

Backline was weak - not just white but the backline as a structure - With Bower back next week, with Jammo the week after, it will get a lot stronger.
Given backline was week it was imperative we kicked goals and plonked them under duress. We missed far too many.

Murph was great
Curnow what a ripper!
JUDD


Warnok killed 'em.


It was a good win, no waite after HT, no Hendo, a weak backline

yet we won by 20
and absolutely dominated for 3/4's.

I am happy with that

This is about a whole season so
no chances on Bower

didn't ant to play Duigan, Laidler and Watson - fair enough really.

Think Watto will play when Jammo's back (although star on sat and he might just play next week)

Him Jammo and Bower as the 3 talls - so long as he does well for the bullants the next 2 weeks.


1 down - 15 more wins to go!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:00 pm 
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99prelim wrote:
keogh wrote:
I have kept pretty quiet


So here it goes

Ratten has to go
He wont but he should because he is !@#$%& clueless

heres why
Watson should have played but he is 18 so he didnt go figure

White is a third stringer backman but was given the task on Riewoldt go figure again

A half fit Henderson is better than Hammer being our key marking forward target

Walker's best possie is CHB pure and simple 2 goals ok but he is better at CHB .He has no idea as a forward

Yarran is the ultimate confidence player so why no move him earlier. How many times does this happen with Ratten

As usual some individual brilliance from the brothers got us over the line with some help from some common tiggies mistakes
Carrazzo as a defence forward. the guy should be in the guts. Pure and simple.

Bryce Gibbs does not go into a pack

Marc Murphy's skills havent improved
From last year we havent improved at all.
No structure in the third


If your happy with this win your delusional


Agreed
I have no idea where our players position themselves but this is what I see most weeks
A forward line that either doesn't have a metre of space to move OR only has opposition defenders (3-4) against maybe one small forward
A backline where virtually every forward entry by the opposition makes me nervous. one on ones with no support. Flowered if I know where the players are. Last time I read the rules, it's 18 against 18
Bryce Gibbs does not impact games. For all of you with an undeniable man crush on him, you need to start accepting this
Shaun Hampson still has no idea about the game. How long must we wait
Yarran needs to rotate b/w back centre and forward. Ratten will make him too predictable at hb
Forget scoring shots, our injuries or the opposition. Our 'structure' is a dog's breakfast
Robinson bleeds blue. don't drop him


Perhaps you should apply for the coaching job at the end of the season :wink: :donk:

(which is 24 weeks away!)

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:02 pm 
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No one has mentioned what a bad rap we copped from the umps. Lucas was quiet. I liked Laidler..Mitch Robbo was very Good..loved Scotlands game. Murphy and Judd were good..Yarran, went missing, but Ratts should have done something with him in the third to change the structure..We had nothing forward of CHF line..
Lots of players out, already been mentioned..It wasn't a good night for us, we were off our game everywhere really, but we won ! A couple of years ago we were always losing these..


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:03 pm 
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DB's post pretty much sums it up for me too...

I'd just like to mention Robinson though...thought he was one of the best....I love his work :)

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:04 pm 
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wow... just wow, a fair amount of work to be done to get top 4!!!

Waite... Really?!?! He should get done... idiot really!


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:07 pm 
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Bower is 100% ready to come back in...Kruezer another "two to three weeks" ( that means three weeks )..We'll beat the Suns and need to pull a Rabbit out of a hat to beat Filth...


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:07 pm 
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Six on the trot against the Tiges.

Starting to open up the sort of run we got used to against just about everyone who played us mid 2000s.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:10 pm 
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sometimes you struggle thru for a win, and tonight was one of those. very rarely does a team play the perfect game. if you're waiting for that, then you'll be waiting for a very very long time- and how much joy are you gonna get in the meantime? tonight i'll happily take the 4 points and enjoy the work of Robinson, Curnow and Murphy. Go Blues!!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:10 pm 
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Missing the entire first choice spine of the side.. Not much to worry about.

The breakdown in the third qtr occurred when hampson went into the ruck.

Warnock was amazing...



imo backline has to be:

B: Duigan Jamison Bower
HB: Yarran Watson Russell

Watson and bower will basically double team the CHB.. with Bower being left more free to run and carry.. put laidler or armfield on the wing and prepared to aid the half backs, and all of a sudden we look a lot stronger than tonight.

Hendo and kreuzer will be massive ins for us... hopefully we will be fuul strength by round 5..

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:12 pm 
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Mark J wrote:
99prelim wrote:
keogh wrote:
I have kept pretty quiet


So here it goes

Ratten has to go
He wont but he should because he is !@#$%& clueless

heres why
Watson should have played but he is 18 so he didnt go figure

White is a third stringer backman but was given the task on Riewoldt go figure again

A half fit Henderson is better than Hammer being our key marking forward target

Walker's best possie is CHB pure and simple 2 goals ok but he is better at CHB .He has no idea as a forward

Yarran is the ultimate confidence player so why no move him earlier. How many times does this happen with Ratten

As usual some individual brilliance from the brothers got us over the line with some help from some common tiggies mistakes
Carrazzo as a defence forward. the guy should be in the guts. Pure and simple.

Bryce Gibbs does not go into a pack

Marc Murphy's skills havent improved
From last year we havent improved at all.
No structure in the third


If your happy with this win your delusional


Agreed
I have no idea where our players position themselves but this is what I see most weeks
A forward line that either doesn't have a metre of space to move OR only has opposition defenders (3-4) against maybe one small forward
A backline where virtually every forward entry by the opposition makes me nervous. one on ones with no support. Flowered if I know where the players are. Last time I read the rules, it's 18 against 18
Bryce Gibbs does not impact games. For all of you with an undeniable man crush on him, you need to start accepting this
Shaun Hampson still has no idea about the game. How long must we wait
Yarran needs to rotate b/w back centre and forward. Ratten will make him too predictable at hb
Forget scoring shots, our injuries or the opposition. Our 'structure' is a dog's breakfast
Robinson bleeds blue. don't drop him


Perhaps you should apply for the coaching job at the end of the season :wink: :donk:

(which is 24 weeks away!)


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:13 pm 
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Blue Revival wrote:
sometimes you struggle thru for a win, and tonight was one of those. very rarely does a team play the perfect game. if you're waiting for that, then you'll be waiting for a very very long time- and how much joy are you gonna get in the meantime? tonight i'll happily take the 4 points and enjoy the work of Robinson, Curnow and Murphy. Go Blues!!


The perfect game is always expected during the TC game thread. Only a few participate. But week in week out they are horrified when the other team scores. It's a phenomenon.


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