Very patronising statement. Are you really that much smarter than every other voting member?

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I don't think he excluded himself from the majority of members buzz.

I'd prefer to know what each member of the board was contributing than be able to vote on it.

We could have a 20 member board, full of people the members hadn't voted on for all I care, as long as they're doing something and contributing.

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

A decision well overdue

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#GUILTY

That's all I am saying. (*edit- Maybe not. I'd prefer to know what they are contributing and vote on it)

When Simon Wilson stood down, he did so to reduce the size of the board in accordance with Dick Pratt's philosophy.
Now we are told that Jeanne is replacing Simon. The seat that was vacated deliberately.

It is all like Mubarack's government.

Haveing said all that, until a credible alternative candidate/s nominate, it's all academic. Unless you have someone better to vote in, there is no competition for spots.

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Call me naive, but I would have thought a multi, multi, multi million dollar board member, with a vast array of contacts and links to big business and the world of high finance, is worth a shot.

Regards Cazzesman

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There hasnt been one post saying that it wasn't a good appointment.
BTW, she's a billionaire.

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Glad to see her on the board but someone should have made way for her. They make extra room for people they want and force elections campaigns against the people they don't.

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That's fine Caz and I am sure as a member you would have chosen to vote her in as would most members, so why didn't we get the chance?

Firstly if we have a vote we can get rid of some of the dead wood on the board, secondly the board and club can show a bit of respect to the members who they clearly value so much by allowing us to choose the board members. The current board appear to be struggling and yet they think they are able to appoint more and more to the board without consulting the members. Isn't Jeannie's son in law another who was appointed? Anyone know what he has done?

I think Jeannie is a smart woman, but I am not sure if her interest in footy reflects a love of Carlton or a love of Dick Pratt. I thought she was a lot more interested in the Arts than footy.

It's pretty simple. Identify the right people, have an election, get rid of the deadwood. Meanwhile Stick stays on as a glove puppet president courtesy of his friendship with the Pratts. Hopefully Jeannie has something to offer, and hopefully she can put money in to address the debt. This may be a desperate move by the board to try and address the debt, by at least giving our board more financial credibility by having someone really rich on it. We seem to be grasping for saviours like some broken down old VFA club.

Maybe she will be the one to bring some order and structure to the board, maybe not. But either way it is not our responsibility because Jeannie didn't think an endorsement by the members was worth the trouble and more did the Prez.

She may the wife of the late and great Richard Pratt, but I think we would be belittling her if we think her placement is solely to get more money into the club.

I am of the understanding that she has been involved at board level in big business and has a sharp business mind. So I dont believe hew inclusion onto teh board will be a token one.

I would vote for Jeanne in a heartbeat. I think she has the credentials I would like.

How long ago was our AGM?
The cynic in me says its no coincidence the appointment is 2 months later.
Elections are a nuisamce. The members are too dumb to know whats good for them.

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I don't know.

But I tell you what I do know:

Put a ballot paper in front of the average member, with two names on it: a champion ex-player who won games off his own boot and perhaps even captained the club, and... say the CFO of a top 100 company, and the ex player is going to get a lot of votes. If he was really loved as a player, and the CFO was an anonymous kind of guy who didn't lobby hard but just had his name on the ballot paper, I reckon the ex-player would beat him easily.

Football (the game) is highly emotive. Which is great, it's why we love it. Football (the business) should be completely unemotional. That's why I don't want business decisions (voting on board members) being based on emotion (which is what the average member would do).

Average VOTING member... is probably a bit more cluey. But I think we all know that a guy like Kernahan has a board seat for life if he wanted it and the constitution permitted it: he'd never lose a vote amongst the members.

Agree.

Was Jeanne's invitation mooted generally, and were members given prior knowledge that she was being invited, let alone considered?

I don't even care about not being able to vote on it or not, but it would be nice if proposed changes to the board at least be raised with the members.

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Re: Jill Lindsay Scholarship.....wowee...a laptop valued at $700? :O

A non-uni graduate could do great things with that Compaq Presario.....maybe install Solitaire...if Windows 98 will allow it......if she's frugal with what she saves onto the 2GB hard drive, she might be able to run a word processor on it...

Yep, great things with that sort of hardware...

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HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

This is typical of how far behind the the heavyweights in the comp we are

On field, our gameplan over the last few years was, 1) Kick it to Fev and 2) Give it to the champ
Off field, our gameplan is 1) Get the Pratts to bail us out and 2) Get the pokies bankroll us

Like Budzy, it's fantastic to have rich business people support our club but for flower's sake, when are we going to get innovative and stand on our own two feet

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You're right, but we need to also be more laterally entrepeneurial Cazz

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i think i read th she also won 20k towards further development, that would be very handy

Fev

Let's separate the quality of the candidate from the appropriate processes for Board appointments
Mrs Pratt is a quality candidate in her own right BUT whether it is Frank Dardew Mr Pratt or Mrs Pratt the members should absolutely vote on would be board members
I have a lot more faith in the members than others they know modern football club boards need a range of experience and skills .
Our Board goes about board appointments in an ad hoc way and it is not good enough
Let's face it the club belongs to the members and it isn't anyones plaything
This sort of undemocratic practices leads to autocracy like the Eliott regime

Very true on both accounts Buzz................................but there is the mandatory vibe along the way such as

"But I didn't get a chance to vote".
"I demand I put my X on a voting paper"
"The Board has no respect for the membership"
"Sticks the puppet"

etc, etc boring etc.

Lets cut to the chase here. If Mrs Pratt put herself up for a position on the Board would you vote for her? If the answer is YES (and judging by this thread it is probably 99% Yes) then the club has probably just saved $100,000 of your membership dollars in not running an election.

And if the rules that govern the CFC Board permit them to self elect a new member to the Board then they have done nothing wrong.

And if you had to compile a list of attributes you wanted a new member to bring to the Board I suspect Mrs Pratt would have that list well covered. No doubt some on here would want the person to be over 6' tall but such is life.

It just never ceases to amaze me how some can always seem to find issue with even the best news at the club. The 'Yeah but' brigade is never far away on this site.

Regards Cazzesman

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Frank if the members want to change the rules to stop the Board being able to self appoint then those that aren't happy need to start the revolution.

It is unfair to blame the Board because they are following the current rules.

And like many rules or laws in society there are times when they can be good and times when they can be bad. In this case surely it has to be a good thing. Speed limits give everyone the shites when you get a fine for doing 65 in a 60 zone but if the speed limit saves a friend or relative from getting hurt then you would except it every day of the week.

Think of it this time as wonderful decision that didn't cost a cent and the Club will hopefully be all the better for her input.


Regards Cazzesman

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