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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:11 am 
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True, in the end who really cares what these buffoons think.
But I think people fail to realise that there are many very good teams vying for a top 8 spot and I really dont see us being much better than most of these sides.
Certainly top 4 is no fait accompli

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:46 am 
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- In 2007 most had Geelong finishing outside the top 4 after missing the finals in 2006...many had them not in the top 8
- 2008 Hawks weren't expected to make top 4
- 2009 St Kilda (unlucky not to win flag) most considered a side in decline and outside top 4
- Collingwood similar last year.

I'm not too worried about these "predictions".
Providing we have a good run with injuries I think top 4/5 should be expected and we are an outside chance of challenging for the flag.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:32 am 
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I was reading in the paper the other day that Richmond will smash us because Jamison is out and Riewoldt is in after playing his first practice match and Henderson is underdone because he has played 1.5 practice matches.

Worrying times.


Every year before Round 1, the media fire up the Tigers, KB gets excited, journo's start trotting out headlines with cliches like "ROAR" and "CLAWS" and "BITE" and "FIGHT"
And every year they come out with nervous stories about how the Blues are teetering and nervous, "got the Blues" etc etc

Then if we beat the Tigers round 1, the floodgates will open and all the "TIGERS ARE STILL TERRIBLE" headlines will flood in, and all the ferals will call in and say they are tearing up their membership, it's Terry's fault, etc etc


If we focus on just playing our game and not making bad skill errors we should win and everyone will shut up again.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:44 am 
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Bluey44 wrote:
verbs wrote:
I was reading in the paper the other day that Richmond will smash us because Jamison is out and Riewoldt is in after playing his first practice match and Henderson is underdone because he has played 1.5 practice matches.

Worrying times.


Every year before Round 1, the media fire up the Tigers, KB gets excited, journo's start trotting out headlines with cliches like "ROAR" and "CLAWS" and "BITE" and "FIGHT"
And every year they come out with nervous stories about how the Blues are teetering and nervous, "got the Blues" etc etc

Then if we beat the Tigers round 1, the floodgates will open and all the "TIGERS ARE STILL TERRIBLE" headlines will flood in, and all the ferals will call in and say they are tearing up their membership, it's Terry's fault, etc etc


If we focus on just playing our game and not making bad skill errors we should win and everyone will shut up again.



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:54 pm 
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I still LOL at the "Judd is still winning the B&F" doomsday theory. Imagine, one of the all time great midfielders, at his peak, winning his club b&f, ahead of the kids.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:24 pm 
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I have yet to read/hear any kind of reasoned argument from media commentators and/or opposition supporters as to how and why we will be worse in 2011 than we were in 2010. It doesn't get much more unconvincing than Connolly's "What's Worse?" segment in his article about us - he doesn't actually pinpoint any particular discrete thing or things that are "worse", instead opining that we rely too heavily on Judd and that Murphy and Gibbs need to step up in order for us to take the next step. Most Carlton supporters would agree with his viewpoint in that regard, but it's hardly a strong justification as to what is "worse" about us in 2011. He'd have been more convincing if he'd given something substantial, for instance a brief discussion of Matthew Kreuzer's recovery from his knee reconstruction and the adverse effect his absence might have on our ruck division. But his weak effort means that he has not adequately addressed the criteria within his article.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:26 pm 
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meh....who cares.

geez the Adelaide media have the Power & the Cows playing in the Grand Final.....

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:54 am 
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Oh no, we rely heavily on the player adjudged the best in the competition in 2010.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:14 am 
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
I still LOL at the "Judd is still winning the B&F" doomsday theory. Imagine, one of the all time great midfielders, at his peak, winning his club b&f, ahead of the kids.

:donk:

Yeh, imagine the Brownlow medalist winning his clubs B and F, who would have thought?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:44 am 
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Connolly, along with every other football scribe has us standing still or going backwards, while every other club is improving. :screwy:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:39 pm 
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the HUN actually has us improving ie 14-15 wins......pretty realistic.......should read it before blowing off all the pre-season predictions


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:12 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Last year not one journo had us making the 8 most had us 10-12-
Although we faded to the end we should have finished at least 6th

so if he has us at 9 - Safe to say we will be comfortably in the 8

That's a reasonable point you make there.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:01 pm 
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zoneman wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Last year not one journo had us making the 8 most had us 10-12-
Although we faded to the end we should have finished at least 6th

so if he has us at 9 - Safe to say we will be comfortably in the 8

That's a reasonable point you make there.


FWIW Rohan picked us to finish 8th in 2009 and we finished 7th. I couldn't find his 2010 prediction.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:06 pm 
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I guess the thing is there are a lot of teams in that middle bracket who could end up anywhere between 5th to 11th, give or take, and you have to slot them in somewhere.

But I'd have thought with the Blues making the Eight two years running, and with a host of high draft picks and youth developing, plus Waite in his second year after a knee reco and Warnock 'arriving', that we'd be seen as at the very least holding our spot.

Rohan clearly doesn't think so, and I hope we well and truly show him up in the coming 26 weeks.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:30 pm 
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Critics never predict a drop off from the top 4 sides. Although it obviously does happen, since new teams rise to that level.

Whereas I predict both Geelong and Saints to drop out of top 4 this year.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:28 pm 
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Stefchook wrote:
Critics never predict a drop off from the top 4 sides. Although it obviously does happen, since new teams rise to that level.

Whereas I predict both Geelong and Saints to drop out of top 4 this year.


I wouldn't be surprised if one of them did, don't reckon both will.

I agree with Sugarcane, we've made the 8 the last two years and have a more experienced side. Logic says we should improve or at least hold steady.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:46 pm 
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We've gone from having a Fab Four midfield last year to not enough silk this year although I do think Murph and Gibbs need to have a season where they both dominate. McLean cant have another injury ridden season otherwise he' gone and it'd be nice to see genuine progression with Lucas.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:59 pm 
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Stefchook wrote:
Critics never predict a drop off from the top 4 sides. Although it obviously does happen, since new teams rise to that level.

Whereas I predict both Geelong and Saints to drop out of top 4 this year.


The Aints have been very good for the last few years but sad to say (he he) the window is now slammed shut. Fancy losing or not winning those two grannies when they shoulda won 'em both :smile: :smile: . Cats will hang around for one more year, but they're also on the slide - 4th or 5th at best for them. We are a massive chance for top 4 this year :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:22 pm 
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Interesting in today's piece on March stars (players to shine in pre-season), he managed to squeeze in 3 Essendon* players, 2 from the Crows and all of 6 others across the rest of the competition.

Not surprisingly, in the accompanying photos, the photo of Essendon*'s Heppell was about 6 times as large as the other 3 photos.


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