Essendon* received two flags for finisihing on top of the ladder without playing in a GF - 1897 and 1924.

Bloody conspiracy even back then

Something I remind my scum supporting friends of regularly

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L.M 35-06

buys their premierships by purchasing the best players in the land, even after the salary cap was introduced!!!!!!

Only Collingwood after a certain Player who have taken a massive pay cut, gives him $50,000 for donating to the Club his footy jumper and a couple of small memorabilia and what’s more the AFL closed a blind eye to it.

Have i missed something ?

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This is what I and others are referring to. Essendon* received two of their premiership cups not by playing off in a winning Grand Final but by merely being on top of the ladder after the home and away games. That is they were gifted them. Carlton have won theirs fair and square by winning the Grand Final.

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Have we really won all 17 fair and square? I mean, really?

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!!!

After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F .........
Visit http://fromthemoshpit.com/

...has the best colours
...has the best guernsey
...has the best song

...has jobs for the boys.
...had a legendary coach mentor his successor before Collngwood thought of it first.

... had the Bluebirds

We won 17 grand finals. No one else in the AFL/VFL has yet achieved this.

As for the second part of your question, define what you mean by fair and square, ensure that you use the same standards for all teams and I will be in a better position to answer your question. Or is it a rhetorical question and can not be satisfactorily answered?

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Did I nod off and miss #17?

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

I must've too..........

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Obviously referring to the 2011 flag guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get with the program

... had the Blue Birds.
... train on the best playing surface in Australia.
... eat their own.
... matter.

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Roger. On board.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Define what you mean by 17.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!!!

After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F .........
Visit http://fromthemoshpit.com/

Only Carlton handcuff players

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WADA medical director Dr Alan Vernec describes Essendon* FC drug case as biggest scandal in team sport the world of sport has seen. #WC2WB

#GUILTY

.........Is deemed by media commentators and Journo's to be an "at full or near full strength" Carlton side - whilst 10 of the normally first picked players in the 22 arent playing and the entire rookie list is on the field.

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Ronald Reagan

...has won a "Millennium Game".