Three Boys Dreaming

Taff · **Posted:** Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:57 am

Juzzy wrote:

Stone Free wrote:

TheSwan wrote:

my feel about Jago and his father/grandfather was that they were so negative and condescending. We never really saw the father giving his son that warmth that Yarrans mum had for Chris.

Jago's father was by far the worst character of the doco.

Was that the old guy who was all like "Why would anyone want to leave Smithton and go to Melbourne, everything you need is right here." I was a bit speechless at this guy's attitude. Fair enough HE never wants to leave his comfort zone, but don't force this attitude on others, it's just selfish.

I believe he also tried to justify the kids lazy training schedule by saying kids burn out if they train. Absolute wanker

Have you ever lived in a small country town?

Donstuie · **Posted:** Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:17 pm

bluegirl72 wrote:

Couldn't help hoping Kevin Sheedy was watching too, and decides to mentor the other two kids. Maybe give' em an experience of a 6month boot camp to see how they develop.
I just couldn't help feeling that the right mentor at the right time in those boys lives would have changed everything.

Then why in God's name would you want to let Sheedy near them?? :screwy:

bluegirl72 · **Joined:** Sat May 23, 2009 8:30 pm **Posts:** 23921

Donstuie wrote:

bluegirl72 wrote:

Couldn't help hoping Kevin Sheedy was watching too, and decides to mentor the other two kids. Maybe give' em an experience of a 6month boot camp to see how they develop.
I just couldn't help feeling that the right mentor at the right time in those boys lives would have changed everything.

Then why in God's name would you want to let Sheedy near them?? :screwy:

oops..forgot your all things red and black are evil thingy!!(no...they are..they are!!! :oops:

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Why?
Cos he's good with the kids? :razz:

barrel47 · **Posted:** Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:00 pm

Thought the same thing re: Sheeds.
Surely a guy who has done so much for indigenous footballer would have seen the doco.
Surely being the GWS maestro he would give the opportunity to Daen (the Western Sydney kid) just to see if he can make something of himself (football or otherwise).

I really hope he comes to the party in that respect.

Bomba Sheldon · **Posted:** Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:03 pm

barrel47 wrote:

Thought the same thing re: Sheeds.
Surely a guy who has done so much for indigenous footballer would have seen the doco.
Surely being the GWS maestro he would give the opportunity to Daen (the Western Sydney kid) just to see if he can make something of himself (football or otherwise).

I really hope he comes to the party in that respect.

He could use this year to see if he cant straighten out the kid, it wouldnt cost a spot on the GWS list the year before they head into teh real stuff

I might actually start liking Sheedy if he did that

bluegirl72 · **Joined:** Sat May 23, 2009 8:30 pm **Posts:** 23921

Bomba Sheldon wrote:

barrel47 wrote:

Thought the same thing re: Sheeds.
Surely a guy who has done so much for indigenous footballer would have seen the doco.
Surely being the GWS maestro he would give the opportunity to Daen (the Western Sydney kid) just to see if he can make something of himself (football or otherwise).

I really hope he comes to the party in that respect.

He could use this year to see if he cant straighten out the kid, it wouldnt cost a spot on the GWS list the year before they head into teh real stuff

I might actually start liking Sheedy if he did that

yep..and they'd get a follow up doco..plus lots of aww geez aint GWS swell etc...winners all around.

Lace Out · **Posted:** Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:23 pm

Just a great Doco, vey interesting to watch... IMO the other two kids didn't have it, especialy the one whos dad passed...I think they thought it would just happen.

Yazz was different, he made getting drafted his priority and pulled it off in the low end of the 1st round... :smoking:

Loved watching the footage of the indigenous boys first game/visit to the ''G'".... Loved how yazz tore it apart in the last ti win the game and got B.O.G honours...An incredible effort when you consider how talented the indigenous boys are..

Also the comment by the teacher who runs the school for the indigenous kids blew me away.."chris is by far the most talented player we have had come through the system"...God knows how many people have gone through that school........ :eek:

molsey · **Posted:** Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:24 pm

Bomba Sheldon wrote:

barrel47 wrote:

Thought the same thing re: Sheeds.
Surely a guy who has done so much for indigenous footballer would have seen the doco.
Surely being the GWS maestro he would give the opportunity to Daen (the Western Sydney kid) just to see if he can make something of himself (football or otherwise).

I really hope he comes to the party in that respect.

He could use this year to see if he cant straighten out the kid, it wouldnt cost a spot on the GWS list the year before they head into teh real stuff

I might actually start liking Sheedy if he did that

Sheedy might like the upside but he didnt have the patience with the downside - just like any other coach. His love of indigenous players is just a smokescreen - its all about success as a coach.

Dirko · **Posted:** Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:52 pm

molsey wrote:

Sheedy might like the upside but he didnt have the patience with the downside - just like any other coach. His love of indigenous players is just a smokescreen - its all about success as a coach.

Yep. Just ask Kickett....

hollywood43 · **Posted:** Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:10 am

The doco really showed to me that if Yaz gets fit, im seriously think he can be one of the best players in the AFL. The bloke is and always has been lazy.... if he puts in, theres no doubt he has the smooth skills to become elite. Imagine he had the intensity and work rate of a Simmo or someone like that to go along with those awesome skills
Hopefully the penny drops and this kid makes the most of his god given talents

Big_T · **Posted:** Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:51 am

This link may work overseas...

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/programs/threeboysdreaming.htm

BTW, great doco... The Australian version of Hoop Dreams which is amongst the best docos ever made...

Punter22 · **Posted:** Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:25 am

Doc Sherrin, if you thought the questioning of Yazz was a little OTT in regards to his father, I suggest you google 'Dez Bryant interview controversy" and have a read.

It seems anything is on the table these days.

seanpb · **Posted:** Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:49 am

Quite interesting.

I can't help but think, as another poster mentioned a couple of pages back, that given Yarran's current position he was cast in a more favourable light than the other two.

Whereas the doco portrayed Yarran as the one who rose above it all, the feel good story, it just as shamelessly makes the other two statistics. Preying on and exploiting the "I told you so" mantra that accompanies any failure by Aboriginal boys. Most people are aware of the incidents involving Chris, but they're not even glossed over, they're just totally disregarded.

Sure, there were extenuating circumstances with Lomas and Jago simply didn't want it enough, but I felt the doco used that as a commentary on the whole race.

Fact is plenty of white boys don't make it because they don't try, or because of other issues in their personal lives. When it's an Aboriginal boy we all just shrug our shoulders and say "well, yeah..." like we expect it.

Blues87 · **Joined:** Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:21 pm **Posts:** 817

Amazing documentary. I really appreciated the insight.

It goes to show how fragile a budding AFL career can be.

It made me think about kids I went to primary school with who for whatever reason, went from being energetic and likable kids to having fallen to the scourge of drugs and anti social behaviour. It makes you wonder.

It really highlights the value of a strong mentor. I think that's why Jim Stynes is such a remarkable man with what he has achieved.

Gilly34 · **Posted:** Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:25 pm

seanpb wrote:

Quite interesting.

I can't help but think, as another poster mentioned a couple of pages back, that given Yarran's current position he was cast in a more favourable light than the other two.

Whereas the doco portrayed Yarran as the one who rose above it all, the feel good story, it just as shamelessly makes the other two statistics. Preying on and exploiting the "I told you so" mantra that accompanies any failure by Aboriginal boys. Most people are aware of the incidents involving Chris, but they're not even glossed over, they're just totally disregarded.

Sure, there were extenuating circumstances with Lomas and Jago simply didn't want it enough, but I felt the doco used that as a commentary on the whole race.

Fact is plenty of white boys don't make it because they don't try, or because of other issues in their personal lives. When it's an Aboriginal boy we all just shrug our shoulders and say "well, yeah..." like we expect it.

funny, I didn't get that feeling at all.

missnaut · **Posted:** Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:11 pm

Gilly34 wrote:

seanpb wrote:

Quite interesting.

I can't help but think, as another poster mentioned a couple of pages back, that given Yarran's current position he was cast in a more favourable light than the other two.

Whereas the doco portrayed Yarran as the one who rose above it all, the feel good story, it just as shamelessly makes the other two statistics. Preying on and exploiting the "I told you so" mantra that accompanies any failure by Aboriginal boys. Most people are aware of the incidents involving Chris, but they're not even glossed over, they're just totally disregarded.

Sure, there were extenuating circumstances with Lomas and Jago simply didn't want it enough, but I felt the doco used that as a commentary on the whole race.

Fact is plenty of white boys don't make it because they don't try, or because of other issues in their personal lives. When it's an Aboriginal boy we all just shrug our shoulders and say "well, yeah..." like we expect it.

funny, I didn't get that feeling at all.

I didn't either. I thought it just showed how difficult some people's journeys to AFL (and other professions) can be due to their life circumstances and how easily they can influence whether or not you "make it".

camel · **Posted:** Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:58 pm

I finally got around to watching this. I give it many stars. :thumbsup:

Certainly gives a better appreciation of how quickly footy gets serious for 14-16yo kids.

Rapted with Yazz's year so far. Still reckon he's got some learning to do, but he's still so much time.

Sadly, I think time may have passed Jago and Lomas.

bluebo baggers · **Posted:** Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:38 pm

camelboy wrote:

I finally got around to watching this. I give it many stars. :thumbsup:

Certainly gives a better appreciation of how quickly footy gets serious for 14-16yo kids.

Rapted with Yazz's year so far. Still reckon he's got some learning to do, but he's still so much time.

Sadly, I think time may have passed Jago and Lomas.

Finally saw it on the plane (it's on QANTAS's "stadium" package for anyone who is flying across the country).

Brilliant doco as most have said and pretty much agree with Camel - good to see it after Yazz has starred this year as well - he deserves every accolade he receives.

Lomas was unfortunate, Jago was lazy - it looked like he gave up during his second U16 carnival.

I also wanted to punch his father and grandfather for just accepting how lazy he was and not encouraging him to make any of the sacrifices needed (weights, extra training, diet etc) to at least give himself half a chance.

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