Some players, many I would guess, adopt the club they play for as their club for life. So it can go beyond being just a job.

I hope it's settled one way or the other before too long. If for no other reason than to get rid of this thread.

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If it's settled quickly, he's staying.

If we don't find out until the end of the year, he's going. If he's gone, we won't know until year's end. That's the problem with the poaching thing - the AFL culture just isn't set up for it.

John is right. If MM is not signed up by mid year, then he's as good as gone. Not completely, as Pavlich shoed, but chances are he would be off to GWS.

MM is probably on about $40k-$500k already at CFC, which is an obsene amount of money, so if he leaves CFC it will be disappointing

He is paid very well and Carlton have developed him from a 18 year old so he does owe Carlton his best football years which are 24-27. If wants to chase the dollar to finish his career then good luck to him. Ablett is different because he has achieved so much with Geelong wheres Marc Murphy has achieved nothing at Carlton to date.

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You heard it here first!

..you're kiddin' right..?.. ..after judd and murphy, the midfield drops down a peg or two..by far our 2nd best midfielder, which is nothing to sneeze at when considering our number one..

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no i'm not big kahuna, murphy for me is a posession winner, not a match winner. the only difference from my perspective between him and carazzo is age. gibbs' decision making and skills are far superior. bear in mind that this is just my opinion... and excuse my shite quote format, i'm new to the system.

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We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion.

Football nowadays is nothing more than a business: the AFL runs it as a business, the clubs are businesses trying to sell a product to get investors, and players sign contracts and operate under collective agreements just like any other employee in the land.

Would love MM to stay and think he will (just a feeling - understand that MM wants to stay, but his dad is driving a hard bargain), but really don't think players owe a club anything.

A club will not pick players who they think have no value, likewise players get delisted when they reach their use by date, even players who are good blokes (Fisher, Wiggins). A club's only interest in a player is the success / reward that player can bring. So why should players look at clubs like a loving parent figure who they honour no matter what? And how do supporters look at players? Pretty much like clubs, ie. the interest in a player is based on the success that player can bring. After they finish from football, we stop singing their praises and show no interest

If you were in MM's position, and GWS was offering you money that would set you up for life, what would u do?

Stick around for 3 more years and be one of the first to qualify for the muted free agency coming. If he continues to improve and become the player i think he will, he'll have all the Victorian clubs follating him.

With a bit of luck he may have a premiership or two by then. That's not going to happen in the abyss of Western Sydney.

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

You are right, AFL is a business however you would think that the players want a premiership or two, as well as the $$ for busting their chops.

+3 to Mr Caz.

The fourth party is us.

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http://www.blueseum.org/tiki-index.php? ... A+M+Murphy

Three successive Top 3 finishes in Carlton's Best & Fairest is a pretty impressive effort...

From the Blueseum

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Especially considering his slow start to the season, it was a super effort to finish in top 3 of the B&F

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One thing for certain, we can't afford to place 3 or so years developing young future guns to have them walk away with a new start at another club (Marc Murphy). Then smashing us when we play them. Need to sign players up and keep the good eggs, while trading or delisting the list cloggers. Murphy is genuine in his talents and proves to be more than valuable. I myself think we owe him something as he had a single handed job with Gibbs in the middle in our dark times. Was basically thrown in the deep end and told to swim. Judd has come along and taken the tagger off Murphy which helps his cause. Simo and Carrots will eventually be on the older side of their peak eventually and the newbies will still be finding their feet in the next 2 to 4 seasons. Its time to let Murphy and Gibbs blitz and get great assists from Garlett, Joseph, Yarran and others the Cachia types come through slowly. Need a heavily stacked mid field, which we have. If we lose these types we will be rebuilding a mid field all over again, and Judd will be an old man before they can help him dominate.

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Bring the season on already. The wait is killing me.

More gone than the gone in Gone in 60 Seconds. Even goner than the gone in Gone With the Wind. If you've gone fishing or bananas recently you still didn't go as gone as Murphy. Cause he's goner than the pubic covering of a Brazilian supermodel with alopecia.

about as gone as cook off michael beer bowling

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

What are you guys saying? Are you crypitically saying you think he is going ?

6 pages about an article in Craig (you only get one chance with me luv) Hutchison's gossip column. Arrgghh !!!

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Murph has been elevated to the leadership group for 2011
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/newsar ... fault.aspx

OMGWTFBBQ? Didn't Ablett join the leadership group down at Geelong last year. Murph is definitely gone then and this is a last desperate hope to bribe him into staying around. The sky is falling.

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The only way for some people to understand is for them to be on the receiving end

Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

Just upping his price or I'm not sure...