Thank-you everyone for your reports. Was unable to attend myself. Would have loved to though. Some very interesting points to come out of the meeting by the sounds of it, and some very comical ones too:


I am aware that the cap wasn't of the greatest quality, and people pay good money for their membership and so on. But really, if all people join up for is for the hat, then why bother? I really couldn't care less about the supplier for the hat.

Membership is about more than the prizes you can receive...for me it's about value for money when going to the games, and most of all, support for the Carlton Football Club.

Next we'll be talking about the quality of paper used in each issue of the club magazine...

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"GIBBS."

a lot of people sign up as members that cant attend games and pretty much all they get is a hat - so yeah its kind of a big deal

but there hasnt been a wearable hat for years and years now

all the hats as far back as i can remember have been consigned to the junk heap because they have been shit

MAKE FLEXFIT US BASEBALL STYLE CAPS !

NOT THAT HARD

or expensive

so not hard to replicate a yankees cap

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Well yes, but if it's not too much of a stretch to get better quality caps, then why not. More people wearing caps = more members showing their membership to non members.

And besides, the caps have always been shit

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So, indirectly, the clash jumper was mentioned!!

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Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

Have never worn the hat, so it's not an issue to me, and never will be. I will say however that the scarf offered in 2008 and 2009 got its share of use, and still does these days too. That and I'm too attached to my old scarf with a badge collection on it, and not ready yet to take them off (players like Kouta, SOS, Campo, Lance, Ratts, Sticks, Diesel and so on ). While these free gifts are nice to have, it wouldn't phase me one bit of we got nothing but match access, and recognition as a member for signing up. Interstate members/non matchday members I can understand to a certain extent, though. I guess for them it is more than just a hat/scarf...

Can understand that some members can't attend games and so they only have the hat, but it can still be traced back to my original point- a membership isn't about the prizes. It's about supporting your club.

Agree though that if it's not too much of a stretch, change the hat supplier, and like grrofunger said, maybe even change to a more stylish look. I suppose it's all about maximising the benefits of a membership.

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"GIBBS."

Good idea............

i want a baseball with the Carlton insignia on it.......!


kindest regards tommi









and a cookie.............!

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that'siti'mnotchangingthistagain......!

this - NOT THAT HARD

replace NY with CFC

replace MLB logo with AFL logo

write 2011 member down one side

and if you absolutely must a sponsor on the right hand side

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

We still have a long long way to go when are two of our top three guys challenge the other like this.

Would it be too much for Swann, Sticks, Ratts and anyone else who might be involved in making the decision re: closed training sessions or speaking to the media to get together and reach a common front on what our policy is?

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Who will give us our stats each week now? Ratts you need to feed us.

So the biggest issues at our club are caps and closed training sessions!

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Just GIVE us the cap!

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Just to add a couple of points.

Someone asked about the ugly vacant land between the new facility and the Hawthorn Stand and what was planned for that area. CEO said that the plan was to build an indoor stadium i.e basket ball court and some discussion had taken place with the council and the old government but with a change of government the club will need to discuss with them.

The Hall of Fame area within the new facility is something the Spirit of Carlton group is responsible for and in particular David McKay, Geoff Southby and Tony Debolfo. They have visited other clubs set ups to get ideas but the display at Carlton will be fluid i.e. they want the display to continually change.

In terms of debt reduction the number mentioned was a $700,000 reduction for next year. I tend to think this is a conservative number for public consumption particularly if we crack 50,000 members.

One member consumed most of question time;

He wanted life memberships to be awarded too members who were members for a long period of time. He wanted a social club at Visy Park and finally he said Greg Swan is a shit CEO and should be sacked and wanted to know why he was running the club and not the board.

Synbad?



I agree that it would be a positive thing for the Club to reward long-term loyalty with a life membership. But the question would be: How long should entitle you to LM? 25 years continuous? 50 years?

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If a clash jumper is not mentioned at the annual AGM, does it REALLY exist?



I see your point, but personally I like getting "stuff" as extra with my membership (even though I don't even wear baseball caps) and I'm sure a lot of others do to, particularly younger members.



LOL. What was the response to that?

I was there too....

Fisher, Simpson and Waite all made life members. Fisher spoke well and was genuinely appreciative of the opportunity afforded him down the years. Thanked the coaches and players and wished all well for the future.

Kernahan acknowledged that at about this time 12 months ago, the players disgraced themselves and the club, “And with a week to go before Christmas, Juddy assures me there won’t be a repeat of last year.”

Ratten introduced each of the new recruits, commented that Kreuzer is having to be held back from over-training and will be available from early in the new the year, if not round 1. Then went on to say “our aim for each of the last 2 years has been to make finals, next year our objective is to win one and reach top 4.” Might have just been because his bosses were standing right next to him but to me at least, he seems more driven than in seasons past.

Ratten also commented that new assistant coaching staff will result in game plan changes, “but only to a point, we’ll keep playing the Carlton way.”

Swan stated that all future AGM’s will be held in the gym at Visy Park (meeting rooms there are not big enough), that there was a lot of membership feedback about poor quality of extras, in particular the hats. Said that the supplier has now been changed as a result.

With football department and training facilities now complete, financial focus is now on debt reduction. A $700K expense saving has already been identified in a streamlining of operations (didn’t elaborate on what exactly).

The outgoing QC director spoke, said that he took a call from a Herald Sun reporter, and for 20 minutes spoke at how well the current administration is performing and how comfortable he is with moving on. Reporter then asked at the end “Any regrets?” to which he replied, “ Just the one”. Then briefly mentioned the 2002 priority draft penalties and was somehow surprised that that was the only headline in yesterday’s paper. “Must’ve been a slow news day.”

The topic of a Carlton Hall of Fame was raised again. This last year was dismissed as too expensive to maintain – Essendon*’s costs $1M per year? However, the Spirit of Carlton group is looking to become financial backers and is to build and maintain a ever changing museum that will be based at Visy but may also go on tour to game venues and regional centres etc. Said they or the club weren’t interested in a museum of static display cases, “needs to be fluid.”

Floor was thrown open to questions. Joe? (don’t know his last name) dominated the session, and as with every year, had nothing positive to say. Wanted Swan sacked, wanted a social club to be built at Visy Park “not everything needs to be viable, ok” and wanted life memberships to be awarded to normal members. Swan responded with “we won’t be building a social club, there’s already a cafe and indoor facilities, that’s it. And with 40,000 members, we couldn’t fit in everyone in who was made a lifer after 50 years etc. Life memberships will continue to be awarded to only those exceptional Carlton people”.

Judd was there for the first time and said (tongue in cheek), “This is my first one of these, this is good, I don’t know where I was for the last 2!” the 200 strong crowd gave an embarrassed laugh.

Well he could hardly put one on anyone else.......

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So supporting the club emotionally, and importantly financially, over many many years doesn't make you one of those? Disappointing. There should be a special LM category for long-term members.

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Reckon the club should release an alternate white cap...

Thoughts?

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Does an alternate cap have to be worn backwards?

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My understanding is that memberships are yours free after 50 years. Swan's point was that you won't be granted Life Membership (with all the extra perks they bring) automatically after serving x years. Life Memberships also went to Simon Wilson QC, Rohan Bromley and Don Mathieson. Each of these guys have given above and beyond and have thusly earnt their LM recognition.