Have to say that I love the navy blue jumper it is the best jumper in the comp and could rival any club`s strip around the world!

This away strip/clash malarky is just rubbish .... how is it that all those years (VFL) Carlton and Melbourne never had a problem? did it just materialise overnight?

I think clubs with useless jumpers (Freo) should experiment and change their jumpers until they come up with something palatable (which they now have).

The mighty Blues do not have that problem ... I agree with Doc that we shouldn`t bag the new strip until we have seen it but realistically when you have the best the rest just does not stack up no matter how good it is.

Personally I think the white away strip is the right choice (it feels like a photo negative), if we have no choice but that jumper and anything else can not, will not be a shadow of the best jumper in the world. No matter what our team just loses something everytime we wear anything different. Its not being pig headed just stating a fact. Simply put we as Carlton supporters will never be happy with any clash strip just will not happen.

WE ARE THE NAVY BLUES FFS!

I think you're expecting to much for your membership. You want to be a decision maker now?

Haha, so only wins in a navy jumper count?

I think you need to get over it and move on. So long as we never turn out in any similar to the disasters offered up by the Eagles, I don't really mind what colour our jumpers are. I support the club and its players, no matter what they wear.

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The kids loved it because player's signatures show up on the white background, not so good on the navy blue.

Guys,

I cannot understand why Collingwood has been able to get away with the jumper change without a murmour. If you guys don't believe me have a look at the black & white jumper currently being played in compared to the one 5 or so years ago. The normal jumper has now become the away strip while the new more black strip is now the norm.
Actually, I'll go as far as saying, they are now using the PORT ADELAIDE home strip!!!!
hmmmm...

I agree and have always said, we need to make a stand and only play in the BEST jumper ever!!! NAVY BLUE!!!!

Not at all, but perhaps the board should have had more involvement then they did.

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these are my creations, the white one i did a while back, and im not sure if this is what you wanted with the grey??


if you have any other sugestions let me know

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Good sentiments I agree, but our club isn't as strong or considers our heritage as much as Essendon* or Collingwood.

I say we just roll over and do whatever the AFL want. If they want Carlton to play in white - we play in white. If they want us to play in baby blue with orange stripes - we do that. After all, Carlton is only a second tier team. Collingwood and Essendon* are first tier teams.
We should know our place.

Sure it will only be in matches against St Kilda, Melbourne and Port this year that Carlton wears the clash guernsey, and sure it will be against St Kilda, Melbourne, Port, Geelong, Essendon* the year after that, and sure within 10 years every away match Carlton will wear white or orange or whatever...but really -what does it matter? I say the AFL has the best intentions of the club at heart.

I would usually tripe like this.
But.... I am sure I have missed a joke somewhere.
Can someone fill me in?

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Agree entirely and know exactly where your coming from.
I've been saying if for a while we have become a pupett to the AFL.

Just had a look at the new Fremantle jumper...it seems like Fremantle want their new jumper as close as possible to Carlton's.

There is no clash - most would agree with the original 12 teams in the VFL. eg-I agree with the poster before regarding Carlton vs St Kilda- Carlton shouldn't have to wear any clash guernsey for that match. If they want to put white panelling under the arms then so be it, but really nothing more than this is needed - if that is even needed...as they have red and white in their jumper.


Where the challenge lies is when Carlton play Fremantle next year over there. Their new purple jumper is close to a navy blue colour and it has 3 or four thin white v stripes. Now here is a genuine clash with jumper styles...not a made up fanciful clash like the other ones.


Fremantle might need to make those stripes wider or do something else such as wear white side panels so that it doesn't conflict with Carlton's jumper. That is what would happen if Carlton were allowed to wear navy blue. But alas Carlton is not a first tier team ala Essendon* and Collingwood. Carlton is not one of the "big 2 Victorian clubs" so my guess is Carlton will have to wear a white jumper to make Fremantle and the AFL happy.

Like the mock ups there but I would love to see the heritage jumper as our away strip. It is our history

I had a thread running on this very subject a couple of years ago and at the time, it appeared that the AFL was intent on all clubs having clash strips. It is a disgrace that they haven't enforced the issue. It beats me why we have been forced to wear a clash strip, when others get away with claiming "Club Constitution" or "Historical Significance" or even "Membership Backlash".

I am led to believe that a bunch of compromises are being looked at by the league at the moment, but I think they have missed the whole point. Aside from a few, the biggest issue is the backs of clubs jumpers, so I again submit a solution to the issue which most people should be happy with.

I have focused solely on our mob for this post, but have done up all the others as well. The attached mockups should resolve the issue. I have even included clubs that the AFL deem we don't clash with, but it is inevitable they will keep poking their noses in, so we should be proactive and create the double sided jumper.

The graphic legend works this way: Front, Home Back & Away Back. Kapishe?

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Great point Brizzy Blue.

What is the bet that the new GWS team will play in blue or navy blue?

They can't be black and white or red and black...as they are reserved by Collingwood and Essendon*, yet anything that dilutes the Carlton brand is ok.

Your pictures prove there is no clash /potential clash/figurative clash/actual clash or any other type of clash when Carlton plays Melbourne and St Kilda. 100 years of wisdom proves your hypothesis is true. Those compromises you mention further ensure Carlton shouldn't have to play in other colours in future years.

Like your work Brizzy

Very honoured to be apart of this board. Go Blues.

Just reading over this topic i cant help but put my 2 cents worth in.

Firstly i quite like the 'Clash strip'. It has always been a clash strip and i believe we will always wear the Navy Blue whenever we can. The White strip is simple and does it's job (provide a stark alternantive to the Navy Blue)

Secondly as a marketer i actually think that the AFL teams in general do a bad job of using the jumper to sell. Using the EPL and other soccer competitions around the world all teams remain committed to their traditional colours but use teh away strip to be different, changing it every 2 years or so to provide a new revenue stream. So using tha argument i cant see a problem with changing the clash strip every couple of years. Yellow would be a great choice but have athink about this. A green strip to promote our alliance with VISY, maybe get Virgin Blue on baord as a major sponsor and wear a red jumper (The Virgin Blues might get a snigger or 2 but they could paint a jet with a montage of Judd, Murph, Gibbs, Kruse ect).

We know that teams like the Eagles and Hawks have had some shockers over the years. As long as we keep to the simple mongram with (at most) the panels down the sides like the current White strip then i dont really mind what colour we wear, as long as we win the big one soon.

As for Collingwood i actually think they have an alternative strip. A white jumper with 3 black strips is a light coloured strip, a black jumper with 3 white stripes is a dark strip (and their home strip). I think they are fine with what they have. Now Essendon*, really? I believe in order to get the 'Buckle Up' jumper they have had to agree to have a true alternative strip. Finally! About bloody time.

our colours are such a huge part of our brand, we have to be careful not to taint it too much. Other teams can afford to play around more because their brand rely on other aspects of their club, like Ess and Rich having the 'slash'. We are the Carlton Blues, we need to stick with Blue being the prominent colour. Even our clash strip, although mostly white really brings out the CFC in navy.

Having said that, I think every now and then its good to have promotions with other colours as a one off.

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Brad Con, I respect your viewpoint yet I don't think you can replicate conditions in Europe here in Australia.

The EPL has no relevancy as it is another sport - just as the NFL is another sport. They are fun to watch, but really should we put up soccer goal posts or wear grid iron padding as well? when does the copying stop and the originality of thought begin?

There is no NEED for an alternative strip for Carlton as Collingwood have proven convincingly. Have you ever wondered why Collingwood is the most popular club in the AFL?

I love the politeness, really appreciated.

I dont think we need to follow the leads of European soccer and the NFL but i think the facts are that (from a marketing point of view) that a change of colour draws in additional revenue as most die hard fans head out and buy the new strips regardless of if they love or hate it. While i havent seen the actual details of the sales of the White strip i know if i was to buy a new Carlton strip it would be the white one ove rthe Navy Blue one. Why? Because its different.

I think its interesting that Collingwood actually wear their alternative strip in the away game they play against Carlton, have done for the last 2 seasons. All the Blues do is wear the Navy Blue socks with the white band. Hardly helpful if you are trying to distinguish between the two.

I can hardly agrue against the NEED for alternative strips but it has been decreed by the AFL so why not take advantage of it. I dont think standing up for something like this issue is really woth it. I look at the consessions given to The Suns and GWS and THAT is something we should really be worried about. The fact is 80% of the time we will wear the Navy Blue and i think we should be secure in our past to know that Navy Blue, White, Yellow, M & M's NewBlue or whatever it is, we will ALWAYS BE THE NAVY BLUES.

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The dark navy Freo Chockers logo on the AFL draft tracker page looks like a direct and unabashed rip off of the Navy Blues logo above

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