HAve you seen Watson? He's a big boy

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#23: Lachlan Henderson

hey bondi,
watson would walk straight into chb,
mitchell will not.
just wishful thinking, because we need a key forward and key defender,
imagine that both could walk in straight away, top 4 mate?

Thanks for that bb23.

I read today on the AFL site "what your team needs fron this draft" and there was constant reference to Watson.
No one stated that he was ready to play against the seasoned, but then again Hurley did.

I trust your gut feeling, but I find it hard to believe that a Hurley type would be available at pick 18 for starters, and as a result find it hard to believe a pick 18 KP would be ready to hold one of the most important positions on the field, and play against the Browns , Clokes and Reiwoldts of the AFL, withstand a whole season and help us win a flag; that's what you can do when you're a top 4 team.

Fingers crossed in the compromised draft.

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This is, I think, our most talented 22.

Backs Austin Jamison Tuohy
Half Backs Russell Bower O’Keeffe
Centres Simpson McLean Murphy
Half Forwards Houlihan HendersonYarran
Forwards Betts Waite Garlett
Followers Kreuzer Judd Gibbs

Interchange Warnock Lucas Carrazzo Robinson

Emergencies Hampson Walker Kerr

FB: Russell, Jamison, Austin
HB: Laidler, Bower, Armfield
C: Simpson, Gibbs, Murphy
HF: Walker, Henderson, Waite
FF: Betts, Kreuzer, Garlett
Foll: Warnock, Judd, Mclean
IC: Yarran, Lucas, Carrazzo, Robinson*

FB: Russell, Jamison, White
HB: Laidler, Bower, Armfield
C: Simpson, Gibbs, Murphy
HF: Houlihan, Henderson, Waite
FF: Betts, Kreuzer, Garlett
Foll: Warnock, Judd, McLean
IC: Yarran, Lucas, Walker, Robinson

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we are never going to make an impact if bower is our chb.
bower is a running third tall defender.
the likes of brown, hall, saint nick, buddy etc eat bower for lunch and dinner.
if we can land someone like watson [aka hurley] he would be the perfect fit, and this would relieve bower to play he's style of game, [run and carry]

Why is watson known as hurley?

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Even if we recruited Watson he is years away from being a quality CHB.

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Almost agree. We'll need another tall down back with the new interchange rules as ruckman are more liable to rest there. Bower will get spat out at CHB. He's the 3rd defensive, running tall. Kreuzer.will play forward, as will Warnock, but as a resting ruckman out of necessity with the new rules so the "runnerrs" can contunue interchange as before. Neither are KP players. Took 2 practice games to sort that out with Kreuzer. That's where rotating Waite and Walker comes in nicely. Can take a mark as KP players, but mobile one's similar to 3rd talls. Sides will have to rethink their structures with the new rules. If the 3 talls lack mobility one or more will be so easily run off out of defence, as we did to Geelong in round 5 when they played Mooney, Pods and Hawkins all forward. Hence handy having Waite and Walker play forward.

A second tall for O'Keefe or Touhy. I'm sure Caraazo will be in too for the other. Robinson would make a great supersub. That way he could get straight into it at 100 miles and hour without running out of gas. Might not be able to do that every week as he'd need game time too unless we plan to run him on, say, during the 3rd qtr and sub another off. Either Armfield or Yarran could fill that role back in defence, tipping it'll be Armfield, but one could be left out as we use, from your team, Betts, Lucas (or more likely Scotland) and Ellard as the interchange.

The team can be put up here 100 times without Jamison but it will make no difference. The decision makers at the club who know the players far better than us will have him in the team every week.

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We have no alternative for Jamison.

I recall some players saying in the past that Jamison is the most important player to our structure.
His absence due to injury really rocked us.....how can I forget the damage Bradshaw did in the 2009 final, when Jamo couldn't man him up?
Devastating.

Really important that we don't select out of form players.

I thought Jamison's 2nd half of the season was dismal.
I thought his 2nd half of the elimination final was fantastic.
I hope that 2nd half form is a sign of the form we can expect from him in 2011.

I like pressure on positions, including FB. Perhaps White and Austin can do something about that.
I know, I heard it before, Austin is not suited to the FB against fast leading FF's.


It's amazing how our form turned around after Ratts put the heat on the players by agreeing with the media analysts that the efforts of some CFC players as 'soft' and then weilding the axe.

Carrying out of form players is not a good idea imo, I just can't see the benefit, but you're right BV, the MC should know better than the punters on the other side of the fence. I hope so.

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Ja ja ja ja - but this will be our premiership if we recruit right this year

B: White Jamison (Touhy)
HB: Bower (Watson) Russell
C: Lucas McLean (Buckley)
HF: Gibbs Henderson Waite
F: (Casboult) (Mitchell) Yarran

Rucks / Rover:
Kruezer
Judd
Murphy

Bench

Simpson, Garlett, Warnock

Sub - Walker

Emergencies

Davies, Armfield, Ellard

Possibles

Collins, Ellard, Hampson, Laidler,

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Teamboard updated

Changes
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- Removed rookie designation for player(s) Ellard, Garlett, White
- Deleted player(s) Anderson, Browne, Donaldson, Fisher, Hadley, Johnson, O'Keeffe, Tiller


Future Updates
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- Further possible list deletions
- 2011 draftees & additions
- Squad numbers

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Bugger, just used the teamboard and came up with 5 who I would normally consider a walk up start, plus two others I really wanted to fit in.

Serious pressure for spots this year. A VERY good sign.

Main team in bold, what I see as viable alternatives in brackets. Based on backline need of run and delivery and also third man up or marking backman (Thornton role that attacks)


FB: Russell, Jamison, Armfield
(Tuohy)
HB: White, Bower, Lucas
(Laidler)(Austin)(Scotland)
(Davies)
C: Yarran, Judd, Simpson
(Walker)
HF: Collins, Henderson, Gibbs
(Houlihan)
FF: Betts, Waite, Garlett
(Carrazo)
Foll: Kreuse, Judd, Mclean
IC: Warnock, Ellard, Joseph,
Sub: Robinson

What I take from this is that Scotland, Houlihan, Betts, Walker and Carrazo will have pressure on their spots.
Also backline has a lot of options (even without Gibbs back there) but we do need to settle it so they can build rapport, also as others said no other FB option for Jamo
Still see midfield rotation as a bit of a weakness, Judd and Murphy great and not sure of Mclean. Ellard, Joseph, Gibbs not sold on either class (Ellard/Joseph) or extraction abilities (Gibbs). Would love to have Lucas go through their, but unlikely in his second year.
FWD line OK, hopefully Hendo can improve a bit and Kreuse/Warnock can snag a few rotating through. Collins ahead of Houli a guess, hoping for more forward pressure a la Pies/Saints

All in all still a few obvious weaknesses, but on the improve and depth getting better

What's Simon White - chopped liver????

Looks something like this so far;

Joseph Jamison Laidler
Russell Bower Armfield
Gibbs McLean Simpson
Walker Henderson Gartlett
Houlihan Waite Betts
Warnock Judd Murphy
Scotland Carrazzo Lucas
Sub: Kruezer*

* Kruezer will be used as sub initially.

I can't say that it differs much to my team.
What happens to your team when you pick your best with Kreuzer?
I still reckon emergencies are worth considering in our best 22.
Whose your 3 emergencies?
There will always be at least 1 injury to a Senior 22 player every round; we've always had more over the last 10 years.

I'm hopeful that we got good players for Jacobs and Grigg in Laidler and Collins. But I dunno.

I've got Houla in until someone can match or better him.
He's a class player no matter what a small minority think.
I welcome Collins and Yarran and Gibbs/Murphy Carrazzo to displace Houla for the HF spot.

I'm expecting a lot of rotation and movement with the injection of new coaches from Collingwood and Hawthorn.
At Coll and Hawthorn they teach that everyone has to be a dangerous forward.

I believe that if we can match Collingwood with entry, we have a lot more class having pings at the goals.
I can see goals.
I can see Judd, Murphy, Gibbs, Simpson, Walker and probably Scotland kicking a lot of goals next year.
That's a dangerous midfield to add to Yarran, Betts, Garlett, Collins kicking at least 80 amongst themselves.
Then there's the talls next year who'll add plenty of goals Hendo Waite Kreuzer.
Think goals because Warnock Kreuzer and when needed Hampson will be feeding this midfield.

Can't squeeze everyone in and injury will tell the story for each player.
With Ellard, White and Garlett being elevated, people forget they have also gone up in th pecking order.
Pressure for spots on every line in 2011, and fresh new coaches.

I am really keen on seeing what others' best 25 is. There's plenty of agreement amongst us.

Richardson, Brown and Barker are salivating with the talent at their disposal.

Judd Murphy Kreuzer Gibbs

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Boy, meekstar, that's a tough gig for Judd on your team...two positions!?

I agree about the backline. I think Gibbs should be moved to the midfield now to strengthen it. Lucas also. The midfield is the make-or-break area for 2011 to my mind. Get that strong and working well together and we will games from there. Less pressure on the backs and more opportunity for th forwards.

What gets me about some of these posts, though, is how Collins and Laidler get in so easily....how can they be considered best 22 already?? Give them a go no worries, and like White, Lucas and Davies this year let's hope they take their opportunities, but not best 22. unless some punters want to be able to say in May "I told you so".