One of the 2011 assistant coaches will turn out to be Ratten's Successor

And then he will be the one that wins the 17th flag.

All the talk of a Collingwood period of dominance will be shown to be false.

They will win the one flag, be top four for another year - and then slip into the bottom half of the eight.

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My Blue Heaven

Why was Fitzgeralds better?

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

I need to see highlights on Youtube myself.

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"One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds." - Frank Zappa

Fitzegerald was really impressive. He was calm and clear, really listing out the key points he wanted to get across to the players. He was teacher/proffessor/mentor like in his address. A bit of Craig Bellamy in him i recon.

Teague was a bit more flustered and wasnt as clear, he stuttered a little bit but i still thought he was pretty good. Lets keep in mind his team was getting smashed and was like 6 goals down so of course its harder to be calm and cool ike Fitzgerald was.

BTW on Fitzgerald, does he have no ambition to coach higher at an AFL club as an assistant for example? Or is no one interested.

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Carlton Premiers '10

Too funny, one address was when a team was under the pump and the other in cruise mode.

Teague got back to basics in his address, worked too. Was the only time they looked in the game for the first half of the second quarter.

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Perhaps you should both read the page in full before you quote and fire?

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Should we get Twiggers on board?

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WADA medical director Dr Alan Vernec describes Essendon* FC drug case as biggest scandal in team sport the world of sport has seen. #WC2WB

#GUILTY

Judd captain coach

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Koperek.

Now that the seasons over (i actually don't believe the season is continuing with the 'Saint's' and the 'Pies' playing off in the Grand Final )

- Teague.
2 Grand Finals in 2 years says a lot. Seems to have the players belief and is a great tactician......... But is he too Defensive????

- M. Williams.
Has taken Port to their only succsess in their 10+ year AFL history and did a lot with 'what he had to work with' at Port. Has never really had the full support of the board despite the succsess he has brought to their crappy side (3 Minor Premierships and 1 Flag)

- Hird.
UnKnown and UnTried, but is somebody I personally have wanted at our club for a while. Great Leader, Great Knowledge and Great Understanding. Even if he buggers of after 2 or 3 years, we could do a lot worse.

- W(anker) Carey.
Yeah,............errrr.................no!

- D. Laidley
Look, I respect his passion and his will, but he has hardley brought succsess with him.

- WIGGO
Yup. If it hasn't happened already, he should be given R.Harvey's spot. He is well loved around Princess Park (both players and supporters alike) and bleeds navy blue blood. Player Development is where he would relish.

- S. Goodwin.
Too early to say as i don't know much about him.


Who else is there?

Personally, I'd like to see Chocco as an assistant (even though I think he;s a dick). But regardless who we pick, I think it was about time we changed assistants. Good move by the club.................and best of luck in your decision.

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"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit"
- Aristotle

Montgomery was on Adelaide radio tonight.

Missed that start of it. A lot of talk about Judd. Monty not surprised how well he did. Thought he'd come top 2, second to Swan.

Asked what Judd thought of his season and said that he didn't give himself any chance mainly due to how highly he rated Swan.

Monty has watched Collingwood live 7 or 8 times this year and claims the club is slowly learning the requirements of modern day football in regrads to the amount of running and rotations needed.

Said that Judd needs 1 spell extra per quarter, but cant due to the lack of quality around him and sometimes its more benefecial just having his presence out on the ground.

Talked about Gibbs and said he's been pushing for him to play back for two years now.

Doesn't have the tank to play midfield (yet?). Throughout his junior career it's all been about just running to get the ball, and he got it, now he's learning other things. Believe's his 'running patterns' are more conducive to that of a backman. Has good courage and reading of the play.

With Judd in the midfield it's overkill with him in there for stoppage work, and is needed due to how poor we are from coming out of defence. Believe's he's won more games for us playing HB, than he would have in the middle.

Is looking for another assistant role in the AFL, doesn't want to leave the system (ie coach an SANFL club) as once you leave it's even harder to get back in.

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"They're [REDACTED]'

Thanks, that's interesting

re - 'slowly learning the requirement of modern football' - is he saying our coaching panel are slow to learn or the players?

Does anyone know what he means by 'running patterns'? Sounds like a euphemism...

Agree.


He must have been reading my posts.

Ummm, so Judd can't have a rest due to lack of quality but Gibbs can't go in the middle because theres no need, Judd has it covered???

Maybe I'm missing something here.

Fitzgerald always delivers a clear, short, simple message of what needs to be done with no info overload. He is simply clear and sticks to his basic message he needs to get across.

Teague can ramble a bit and uses a lot of cliches, and I've noticed players switch off bcoz his message is nearly always the same. Sometimes he talks a lot without saying much.

You can tell Fitzgerald is very experienced as much as you can tell Teague is less so.

It's interesting that you believe Teagues message is often the same. Fitzgerald often focusses on their statistical data ie. opportunities to play on, what % of opportunities were taken etc. The exact same areas he focussed on the week before! His speech was almost identical.
IMHO, he's reinforcing what the players already know. If they are their metrics of value, they would be displayed on a board for all to see. For the coach to rabbit on about what is already apparent is wasting valuable time.

Teague assessed where the Bullants were deficient structurally on the day, highlighted those points to the players and offered solutions. He also offered them targets to drag the deficit back for the upcoming quarter. Exactly what was required.


Yes Fitzgerald is an excellent coach and he is probably superior to Teague at this stage but IMO, Teague offered exactly what was required on the day. The criticism levelled at him recently appears to be more about justifying opinions than making informed assessments.

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BV it is also akin to judging recruits from 5 minutes on youtube. 5 mins of ABC TV footage is hardly enough to grasp if Teague can speak English let alone judge him as a Coach.

Teague has 3 years experience and Fitzgerald has 20 yrs +.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Sorry wasn't clear was it. Yeah, he meant the players.

@Blueboy, both statements contradict dont they? Apologies, as I was dualing peak hour traffic at the time and then trying to paraphrase 5 hours later. They werent exact quotes, so changing the wording slightly can mean things are taken out of context.

He did joke that pushing so hard for Gibbs to go back might have been the reason he was sacked.

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"They're [REDACTED]'

This is a question of whether we should hire him now, not whether he will be good enough in time. I think we shouldn't, and I'm outlining why I believe that to be the case.

The addresses simply reinforce what I observe in match play. So Cazz, BV: do you think we should hire David Teague as an assistant coach?

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

I reckon you should apply Jim.

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This might sound extreme in the context of alleged sexual assault, drunken violence and a drug trafficking charge...

I have been to quite a few of Teague's "huddles" and am only commenting on what I have seen.
A lot of it has been "player A good keep it goin, player B good keep it goin, player C good keep it goin etc" with the "now lets run it out of the backline" and "lower ur eyes" instructions thrown in after that, and some attempt at motivation at the end.

I have also heard Fitzgerald a few times and he seems to get a few more simple points across in a lot less words, just focusing on what's not being acheived according to their well drilled game plan or KPI's.

I have also stated that I can in no way judge what Teague does during the week.
Teaugue's addresses in the GF were better than I had heard before, but previously I think he has rambled a fair bit.

However we both came back to the same fact.
Teague has coached for 3 years and Fitzgerald a lot longer, and you would pick the experienced coach if u listened to both huddles with ur eyes shut.