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 Post subject: Ratten needs to go!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:17 pm 
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Ratten needs to be sacked!


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 Post subject: Re: Ratten needs to go!
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Why??

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 Post subject: Re: Ratten needs to go!
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Oh @#$%&! me.

I'm just going to ban myself for a few days if we're going to go through this.

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Was wondering how long it would take for this thread to come up !!!!!!
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 Post subject: Re: Ratten needs to go!
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Why??


because there is no evidence of value-added improvement.

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 Post subject: Re: Ratten needs to go!
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This thread is weak as piss. If you're going to have a sook and dump on the coach at least have the smarts to detail some reasons instead of just having a useless rant.

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 Post subject: Re: Ratten needs to go!
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 Post subject: Re: Ratten needs to go!
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Because we lost. Ooohhh we lost. :cry:


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 Post subject: Re: Ratten needs to go!
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I can't believe I hadn't foe'd this little turd yet. I honestly thought I'd foe'd all these clueless trolls.


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 Post subject: Re: Ratten needs to go!
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I find it amusing, actually, are you sure he is serious? However, from what criteria do you judge success? Could we have gone further with another coach? If not, why not?

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 Post subject: Re: Ratten needs to go!
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no value adding

so hendo is not value adding

So garlett is not value adding

but wait you think Murph is stagnating despite that game

Waite after a knee reco is the same?

Army showed no improvement this year

Lucas looked lost every time he went near the ball, White too?

Warnock is a total loss thanks to Ratts

And Jacobs has shown nothing but the same old same old

Their has been value adding

maybe not as much as you think could be

but lets get realistic.

Why is it in this crazy old dog chasing tail segment that only the negatives are ever acknowledged.


Yes we are fragile

and we we start poorly and yes our form fell away the second half of the year (though the last 2 weeks were not bad)

but we can also now play a game as good as anyone. Not often enough, not for long enough but where did that game come from - outer space. did it fall with the red rain of China?

Or maybe Ratts is adding value

and there has been improvement

but what about this

as we improve and as we expect more and as we push to try and climb up the ladder, the weaknesses, the players that are not quite there, the experience, the belief (and so forth)
show how far we have still to go.

Its a long way

but we are @#$%&! closer now than three years ago - that's value adding.

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 Post subject: Re: Ratten needs to go!
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I think they're needs to be a full review, we went backwards this year.

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 Post subject: Re: Ratten needs to go!
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This thread is a gee up. yeah?

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 Post subject: Re: Ratten needs to go!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:40 pm 
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Can anyone please tell me where they see that Ratten can take us any further ??????

The club can spin all it wants about we had no Fev and no one expected us to make the 8 so why complain however the facts seem to show that we finished 8th and again lost our first final which is less successful than 2009 when we finished 7th and lost our first final....

We still struggle with our kick ins when the oppossition kick a point.....Rattens game plan seems to be negative instead of proactive, eg Gibbs continues to play defensive roles off half back when clearly he is a better midfielder who should be a part of our midfield rotations......Ellard, Joseph and Carrazzo all play negative / defensive roles....

I strongly believe Ratts has taken us as far as he is capable of taking us and the time is right to make a change......This won't happen however as Sticks is not strong enough to make the hard decisions...

The other question is would we have won if Roos was our coach today....I believe we would have...Would Roos stand for the lack of development we have seen over the last 2 years??????

Would Roos continue to play blokes who don't perform consistantly week in week out?????

If Ratts coaches next year and we don't recruit a Laidley type to assist him, we will again finish around 7th or 8th and more than likley not win the first final again....

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 Post subject: Re: Ratten needs to go!
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Can we sack D^&K heads from starting these threads?


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 Post subject: Re: Ratten needs to go!
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I think they're needs to be a full review, we went backwards this year.


How so?

You'rre a big fan of Fev and Thornton, we had neither for most of the year and still managed to make the finals and go down by a kick playing an interstate final.

If you'd said we'd gone sideways, I'd understand that.

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 Post subject: Re: Ratten needs to go!
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I think it fair to say in a match lost by 5 points the result could easily go either way.

Judd's miss, Waite's miss, Henderson's dropped mark, his play on and poor handball (not criticising any one player, just examples) were all out of Ratts' hands. From completely and utterly out coached earlier in the year against the Swans to within an absolute whisker of winning today, away from home, in a cut throat final is an improvement from even 8 or 9 weeks ago.

Kruezer, Yarran, Lucas, White and whoever else back in the side and I think we get those 6 points needed.

We were hosed on a couple calls today, made a couple bad choices and were unlucky a few others. None of that is Ratts' fault.

We battled so, so hard today. But just fell short.

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 Post subject: Re: Ratten needs to go!
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
Oh !@#$%& me.

I'm just going to ban myself for a few days if we're going to go through this.


Add me to that list.

If idiots are allowed to post any drivel they want, I don't want to be around.

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 Post subject: Re: Ratten needs to go!
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Go find the Sakc Ratts Mk2 thread and go play in that one.

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