cool!

Ratts will ask Sticks to ask Zac if we can get one.

Coaches of the top 4 teams coach from the box, not the boundary, so not sure how we're copying the league leaders.

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We are copying league leaders in a lot of aspects.
Zoning, huddling,heavy rotations, coaching from the bench just examples.
Can you point out any areas where u feel we are the innovaters or trendsetters?

Footy has changes alot in the last 5 yrs, not sure it's changed bcoz of what CFC has done.

The mark that we could all see coming in the 4th quarter when the ball was set up for 206 to pluck was a good sign of what is to come. Similar signs were seen the week before with Hampson plucking a few.

There are not a lot of defenders within a high leap of a leading forward at 2 metres height with arms at full stretch who can pluck the ball.

2010 is not going to be the year for CFC to win the flag. Other teams will do this.
It is the year to get the key players to see that they can do it in competitive game time, build up their confidence so they can do it more and more often.

When it becomes what they expect to do rather than an unexpected outcome is when the tide will turn.

Having a unique group of 2 metre or so tall rucks and marking forwards (Kreuzer in 2011, Warnock, Hampson, O' Hailpan and Jacobs) will make it VERY hard for defenders to stop the scoring. Having quick running players dance around at their heels will add to the mix.

Tall forwards like Hendo and Waite are what most teams will have. Its the extra height and athleticism that will make the difference.

If you have a difference you should exploit it.

Saturday was good day in that the tall player had their fair share of the score and it wasn't only the quick small players doing the job.

A spread of goal kickers is what wins games as on any day a good defender can cancel a good forward's scoring.

We went to the next level by letting a Coolman Medal winner go

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Yes, we may be copying league leaders in a lot of respects...coaching from the boundary isn't one of them though.

If you take that away and focus on your main point...playing and placing so much emphasis on mulitple small forwards and a heavy emphasis on using our defensive forwards as attacking options is innovative, having our ruckmen rest up forward at times isn't exactly innovative, but it is doing something different, playing Walker on the oppositions tallest forward earlier in the season and having him run off at every chance was innovative...there would eb other more subtle things we're doing that others would notice.

Having said that, injuries at Kreuzer, Houlihan, Walker, Yarran and Bower have probably curtailed each of those.

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Post match celebrations.

Roos / Swans were a leading coach /club when he started going to the bench and Clarko and others have done it also. Irrespective if he thinks it's a good idea now why didn't he try it earlier ?

Placing Walker to run off a tall fwd innovative ?.....sorry but this is copying what Geelong had done earlier this year with Scarlett who had moved away from FB to a more attacking role at HB.

We didnt invent going through defensive fwds if not shown respect. The cats did this with Rooke and I'm sure there have been others.

Small fwd line ?...actually its getting to a more balanced fwd line but.....see Dogs of recent years, we would love dominant power fwds. Small fwds need tall fwds, something that became obvious as the year went on.

Geez...even look at Goldsack being given licence to go the barrell on a kick in. Give us 18 months and we will have a look at implementing similar too.

Harry O'brien shepparding the man on the mark ?....a simple pick and roll.....yeah we will copy that too eventually.

Collingwood forwards have been huddling and blocking for eachother for years too.

Holding the ball in the air for tempo footy?....nah was some other team (Neil Craig was the 1st to really bring in tempo slow downs).

An extra coaches box behind the goals to analyze zones during games....Adelaide initiative.

The ruckman thing?... from Big Nick to Brad Ottens this is hardly anything new.

I have noticed some nice set plays st stoppages, but we aren't alone there.

BTW Im not anti Ratten....just don't see that we have brought anything new of note to the table for a long time.

Wow. I didn't know about this. How long's this been going on for?

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STURDYISM!!

They built an extra box this year.

The AFL responded by making it compulsory for the Adelaide teams to provide good seating behind the goals for opposition coaches in Adelaide.

I think he's asking when we copied it...shame on Ratts for not building a coaches box behind the goals at the G.

Can you tell me which club plays 3 small forwards and goes through them enough to kick 8-9 goals between them and had a defensive forward regularly kicking 4? if you want to compare the offensive output of Rooke to Houlihan then good luck.

The effect Walker was having on a game with his run and carry was completely different to Scarlett.

If you're going to bring up Big Nick...well I believe Jack Worrell himself coached from the boundary so thats hardle innovative at all. I also dont believe Roos or Clarkson were doing it until last year, could be wrong though.

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My memory is that Roos started coaching from the ground because he had decided to quit coaching in 2010 and John Longmire was going to take over as coach. It was more for Longmire's sake more than anything else.

Next thing you know, we'll be trying to kick goals just like those other teams

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I reckon we have been innovative a few times this season....I mean no other team has played a 4 foot nothing rover as a key position player especially one that played at CHF for many weeks

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Watched the replay the other night and the difference between top 4 and the rest is miles apart.

the difference between 2nd and 4th the other night was miles apart too

anything can happen on any given day

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

West coast beat us to that one years ago with Matera.

my mistake I thought matera was taller than betts....

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Walker had 2 good games....look every player in the leaugue is unique so every positional placing can be called innovative if you want to get ridiculous.

Hoops has kicked 4 goals once this year...but if u wanna credit us with some creative new role of an offensive/defensive fwd go for it. Campbell Browne and Frog Davey also defensive fwds. Each player has different strengths, all have kicked goals in the role.

ATM we aren't even playing these 3 small fwds so is it an experiment gone wrong ? a necessity caused by them lacking tanks to rotate thru the midfield ? the club lacking fwd options ?

Most clubs play 2 tall fwds and the rest mids/smalls so I really fail to see any innovation there.

I suppose playing for a couple of months with no fwd structure was something a bit different.