People here are always moaning about lack of depth. Hadley is at the very least a good depth player.

I rate him alot higher than that. He should be kept as insurance for sure.

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Disagree - Joseph doesnt put his head above the ball whenhe does he taps it to space instead of picking it up and clearing it to a running player.

He has great attack on the man and very good tackler but will be a liability if you depend on Jospeh to win the clearances,, he lacks courage in this area IMO.

I don't think AJ lacks courage in getting the ball.

I think he lacks confidence in his ability to accurately dispose of the ball under pressure.

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I have to say I just didn't see that kind of game in Ellard. What a pleasant surprise he has been the last couple of weeks.

We absolutely need his type in the team.

I have been and remain a firm fan of Hadley. I think we play our best football with him in the team. He's not one of our best 22 players, but he's certainly a part of our best team. I hope he stays fit, I think with some continuity he will show his worth.

I think Hadley is one of our ''necessary'' players........like Ellard.

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just watched the last qtr vs Essendon* again. They were both fantastic. carrazzo was aweful. Turned it over 4 times in that qtr alone...

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Inspired by the One-Minute Sculptures of Erwin Wurm

"All in all is all we are..."

I believe a good part of why these 2 players are critical to this team is getting the ball from stoppages.

Their job is to either get the ball and get it out or stop the other team from doing so. That's it! Anymore they can add around the ground is a bonus. They do not have to be fast over the first 20 metres. That they fight hard for the ball is why they need to be there. When a player puts his body on the line, it sets a pattern of what needs to be done for the rest of the playing group.

Inside it is hard, tight and dirty. Runners over open ground are not required here. Tough, ready to endure pain, inside fighters are what is required. Remember Greg Williams - he took the hits then released the ball to advantage.

Look at Sydney. Their mid fielders would rather stop play and force a stoppage than move the ball. After a few stoppages in succession, everyone gets tired even the umpires. The they all slow down to the pace of the guy who gets the ball out and away it goes.

Ellard, Hadley and even Robinson have a role to play here. They will get down and dirty. What we do NOT want is to have Judd take on this role. He can and will do it but it is a waste of his talents as he can be the break away player. Let him use his pace in the first 5-10 metres to clear the stoppage and get the ball out. Ideally this is to a pass and run so he gets it back at full tilt and can direct the ball into the forward 50 with advantage.

Don't disagree with you but Ellard and Hadley are very one dimensional players. They are slow, can't kick all that well, average marks etc. They are good in and unders, but if the opposition runs off them they can become a liability, Hadley especially. That said, conditions should suit both of them this weekend.

As for Diesel Williams, the game was much slower in his day and his defensive skills were non existant anyway. His type of game would be harder to justify nowadays.

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Was that before or after he broke the Bummers backs with two goals?

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Not sure what there is to gain in bagging any individuals performance after a 12 goal win.
As a collective group what was important was that they showed some spirit and an appetite for a contest. I can put up with players making mistakes providing they have a red hot go at the ball and perform their role for the team, win lose or draw. All the players that have been mentioned in here did what was required.
If you are seeking perfection then maybe an Olympic sport like diving, synchronised swimming or ribbon twirling might be your cup of tea.

A bit tough on Ellard Teddy IMO.
His skills are significantly better than Hadleys and his composure in a contested situation seems far better. Hadley was very good in close when he was younger but he's being caught out a lot more now. His reflexes appear to have slowed and his awareness is very average.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Well played Woof.

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This might sound extreme in the context of alleged sexual assault, drunken violence and a drug trafficking charge...

Agreed, and I thought Ellards performance was very good having watched again. Plenty of good attack on the ball, little tap outs and quick thinking. Never missed an opportunity to "get involved". More interested in doing good than looking good.

Hadley had better learn to go with his first option or he'll be in trouble, because he does not appear to be able to break a tackle or get his arms free when he is tackeled. But he had a good game all the same.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

It's been said time and time again that our midfield lacks depth and that we are crying out for some help for Judd & Murphy.

In the last 2 games, Ellard, Hadley & Grigg have stepped up and done well. However, it's only 2 games...

I think a lot of our future success depends upon establishing some midfield depth through consistent performances from these three guys, plus others like Walker, Brock, Robbo & Cachia...

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I dip my lid to D Ellard. Persistence pays off

Has added some grunt around the ground and lays a good tackle (although some a are a little careless and he's given away a few frees.....rather see that than a feeble tackle attempt !). Hadds and Grigga also stepping up Will be a great test for them this week against a Cats time tuning up for another flag tilt.