this thread has made me better understand the gulf that exists between my support of the blues and how others support the blues.

each to their own I suppose.

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This might sound extreme in the context of alleged sexual assault, drunken violence and a drug trafficking charge...

All our players should participate in these type of events!
The culture, heritage and history is build by people such Nicholls and the current and future players need to not only respect them but be part of passing on these attributes to the new generation. Everyone that wears the navy blue jumper or is part of the club has an obligation to do this. Having said that, it doesn't mean they themselves did not or do not make mistakes while being part of this great club then or now!

Couldnt have put it any better...
Respect is what it's all about and some young 'uns just aint got it!
Nor do they have HEART anbd we see that on the field!

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I've even read more intelligent stuff in Talking Players.





Nah.... I haven't really.

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I have to agree with all the sentiments here, except for Sydney Blue who seems to place no value on our club's history or 'sprit' (makes one wonder why he even supports the blues).

Anyhow, I think the club should have made this event COMPULSORY. We can't expect some kid from WA or wherever (who probably grew up following another team) to have a deep-seated passion for the blues. That passion develops gradually over time as the player begins to see themselves as being not just individual sportsman, but part of something much older and greater. Functions like this a very important in this process of understanding. I truly believe that if these guys had these deep sense of what it mean the pull on the navy blue jumper, we would not see spiritless performances like we saw against Fremantle and Collingwood.

It is not about not believing the history of the club it is about Big Nick using every chance he has to take pot shots at the present day players and the administration

He has been doing it for years - A very good friend of mine who played with the Blues in the 80's used to get fed up with Big Nick having a go at them back then at these functions

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Ok well that's a fair enough opinion... but in you earlier post's you were essentially saying that young players needn't listen to 'old codgers' and being quite dismissive of our history. While you are correct that the game was slower in past decades, it was certainly just as rough and tough. The current speed of the game is due to the players being full-time athletes and having state-of-the-art facilities and support. In Big Nick's day the players would've worked a 40 hour week prior to gameday! And forget about scientific diets and training regimes!

So I think it's being quite disrespectful to call a club legend 'slow and fat' just because you dislike his opinion. He was great for his time and that's all he can be judged on. And also, I do believe that 'playing for the jumper' can and SHOULD still be part of modern football... if it's not then Carlton FC (and all clubs) are just entertainment companies.

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Absolutely nothing, if people knew the real big nick they may change their views on him.just wait for the day when the papers report on his financial troubles, it will happen.

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Nothing new KK or anything to get excited about...my old man has followed the Blues since '48 and Big Nicks gambling issues have been known since he started playing for Carlton....no big deal...he is allowed to comment on the club and he is a club legend he has earnt that right....its that simple..

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Correct Juddy. Big NIck is well known for spending time in Pentridge - AND WAS ALLOWED OUT ON FRIDAYS TO PLAY FOR THE BLUES! Hilarious.

A fiercely proud oldie. Don't de-value them Sydney Blue, and yes don't get too caught up on what they actually say. It's their achievements and the moments of great football we want the youngies to emmulate (not their financial prowess).

Amazing!!! kk and SB, two Internet jockeys, are allowed to comment to their hearts' content on all things Carlton. But John Nicholls, the greatest player ever to play at Carlton, the best captain we've had (BY A COUNTRY MILE), the best ruckman in the history of the game - is not.

Did I wake up in a Bizarro world?????

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It's called the internet.

You a long way from home boy....

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STURDYISM!!

IIRC John was never let out of prison to play footy. He served his time & was parolled. I can remember him playing against Richmond at Punt Rd the day after he was released & although had no match fitness I think he slotted a couple of goals playing CHF.

Would have to be one of the smartest footballers of all time (on the field). Unfortunately he was a victim of the punt.

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Yep.......could often be found in the snug bar at the back of the Station Hotel in Greville St. Prahran with the form guide.

But...........what a player!

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What was he in the slammer for?

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Some things are better left unsaid.

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good

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