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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:24 am 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:56 am 
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Hopefully the media keeps putting the blowtorch on the players.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:07 am 
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Bit of editorial licence witht he headline there. The article isn't about Gibbs as the headline suggests.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:06 pm 
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A spot on article I recon.

Get in there Gibbsie

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:27 pm 
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Just another way stats can be made to support any old argument.

Although i agree that Gibbs should be getting more of the hard-ball, as a Half-back he is more likely to get uncontested possessions. I would like to see the stats of other HBF's in the league to compare their stats.

The one who should be embarrassed is Carrazzo!! For someone who plays predominantly in the midfielder, even as a tagger, his stats should be up near Judds. What this shows is that he likes to be the link man, when in actual fact his skill set shows that he should be the complete opposite, he should be the in-an'under type we are screaming for.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:41 pm 
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Very damning article, it really brings home the "white collar" mindset of our mids.

Stuff all the other stats Ratts, this is as good as it gets in explaining our current malaise.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:46 pm 
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Blues Clues wrote:
Very damning article, it really brings home the "white collar" mindset of our mids.

Stuff all the other stats Ratts, this is as good as it gets in explaining our current malaise.



Does it though? If you mean that Gibbs hasn't been used correctly, I agree.

The article is totally misleading though. If Gibbs has been used predominantly off half back, why compare his hard ball stats with midfielders? How about comparing them with other HB's? Apples and Oranges. Gibbs hard ball stats could actually be ok for a HB, but the Hun won't tell us that.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:51 pm 
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Its not about number of hard ball gets ... its about % of hard ball gets ... just because Gibbs does not play much in the midfield ... his % should still be higher than what it is.

We would be dead in the water without Judd.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:56 pm 
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I think we got the wrong Dee.

They have several natural hard goers in the guts --- Silvia, Maloney, Jones + Trengrove looks like he is hard enough

Brock had better deliver

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:09 pm 
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Virgin Blue wrote:
I think we got the wrong Dee.

They have several natural hard goers in the guts --- Silvia, Maloney, Jones + Trengrove looks like he is hard enough

Brock had better deliver

I don't rate Nathan Jones.

Moloney is injured after corking his hip which has bled into his thigh.

Sound familiar?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:34 pm 
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Kouta wrote:
Virgin Blue wrote:
I think we got the wrong Dee.

They have several natural hard goers in the guts --- Silvia, Maloney, Jones + Trengrove looks like he is hard enough

Brock had better deliver

I don't rate Nathan Jones.

Moloney is injured after corking his hip which has bled into his thigh.

Sound familiar?


Jones goes OK, seems to do well everytime I have Dees this yr and that has been a fair bit actually. So not sure what games u have seen him play

Maloney is injured, so are about 1 in 6 players in the AFL

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:13 pm 
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It's a disgrace that Judd and Murphy (two of our better ball users) are forced to do so much of the grunt work.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:03 pm 
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Virgin Blue wrote:
Kouta wrote:
Virgin Blue wrote:
I think we got the wrong Dee.

They have several natural hard goers in the guts --- Silvia, Maloney, Jones + Trengrove looks like he is hard enough

Brock had better deliver

I don't rate Nathan Jones.

Moloney is injured after corking his hip which has bled into his thigh.

Sound familiar?


Jones goes OK, seems to do well everytime I have Dees this yr and that has been a fair bit actually. So not sure what games u have seen him play

Maloney is injured, so are about 1 in 6 players in the AFL


..Jones goes very O.K if you follow my drift, has had some better games this year.. ..Moloney missed a season or two, more or less with a buggered back? i think.. ..he's no more durable than Brock [possibly less].. ..Silvia likewise is injured frequently, took years to deliver on his 'pick', and when delivered it was less than a season's worth of quality.. ..isn't as good this year as compared to last.. ..IF Brock can stay fit, he's the best of that lot in my opinion.. .... ..just needs to be fit consistently to show it..

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:06 pm 
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..what i liked about the article was some proper recognition for the work Murphy does as well.. ..no real preseason, entering round 1 underdone, and he's still been working as hard as ever.. .... .and still young.. ..senior players in simpson, scotland and carrazzo need to lead from the front more.. ..judd and murphy cant go it as batman and robin all season long..

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:29 pm 
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redskins wrote:
Just another way stats can be made to support any old argument.

Although i agree that Gibbs should be getting more of the hard-ball, as a Half-back he is more likely to get uncontested possessions. I would like to see the stats of other HBF's in the league to compare their stats.

The one who should be embarrassed is Carrazzo!! For someone who plays predominantly in the midfielder, even as a tagger, his stats should be up near Judds. What this shows is that he likes to be the link man, when in actual fact his skill set shows that he should be the complete opposite, he should be the in-an'under type we are screaming for.


Great post.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:34 am 
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We haven't had a decent, hard-working, in & under midfielder since Scott Camporeale.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:13 am 
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Ponkstar wrote:
We haven't had a decent, hard-working, in & under midfielder since Scott Camporeale.


We were spoilt to have Ratts Diesel and Brown in the same team. Anyone of those guys would be a Godsend right about now.

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