Did you notice that even blind miskicks from both sides fell into the hands of an unmarked Magpie?....same as last week.....we always seem to play from behind......and when we are in a position to mark?......we punch it don't we?........

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Yeah Waite punched off a couple of sitters when in defence.

I agree...now we can really assess the coaching skills of Ratts without the dynamic duo who have carried him since he took over....

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I'm shocked and annoyed by the way we went about it.

It seems Ratts was outcoached again. Malthouse had extra numbers in defence, and extra number in attack .. that is outcoaching.

Our players are gutless and "pass the buck" everytime they get near the ball.

What has happened to this side? It's terrible when they tease you with good form, then rot away like we have in the past 6 weeks.

I'd rather know that we're shit and gonna receive some good draft picks than to finish in 9th

Big supporter of Ratten, but no more . We had no idea at any stage today. I have no idea what we stand for anymore.

Last week I heard Parkin on Foxtel tell a story that Ratten rang him in the pre-season and asked where are the goals going to come from now Fevola was gone. I would have thought that Ratts and other had a plan, perhaps even a vision. It is becoming increasingly obvious that there is no plan. We need change. Must play the kids from here on.

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We don't need good draft picks.
We just need to draft hard,tough, FOOTBALLERS!

The Pies have them in abundance.

Forget the athletes with potential, i want Selwood/Swan types.

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+1
i'm getting really fed up with this as well.

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i don't wanna spend my life explaining myself. Either you get it, or you don't- Frank Zappa

What took you so long Ratts?

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We are on our way back...

We play with no heart.

We have an inability to get the best out of the players we have.

Very poor performance by the Carlton Football Club.

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Most of us (including yourself JK) have already assessed him. He is a shisehausen coach. But you are absolutely right. Fev and Judd have carried Ratten since 2008

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http://sportal.com.au/mediaplayer/audio ... table-8687

Best performance by Ratts post-match that I can remember. No fluffy stats, no clutching at straws, just brutal and honest. Now to follow it up at selection.

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"I had to eat"

Our play resembles a dogs breakfast. And we stand for nothing. We are slowly becoming irrelevant again.

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Why's it taken him this long to realise it? We all knew it in round 9

+2 Gibbs has been overrated for 12 months. Forget stats....he has virtually no impact on any game, unlike Simpson

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Why does everyone keep saying this? It's complete crap (apologies, it's not an intentional attack). It's because when the player gets the ball, NO MOTHER @#$%&! PLAYER is running to create options and leading to open spaces. The @#$%&! stand around with their man by their side and either walk around of jog slowly. The ball carrier has absolutely no @#$%&! option and as the encroaching player arrives, has to dish off for fear of being pinged. This cannot be seen on the tv as the camera aspect cannot pan out far enough (this is the crux of the live vs tv debate that infuriates interstaters) to show the full birds-eye view. It was atrocious today coming out of half back with no midfielders or forwards working hard enough. You wonder why we have problems kicking in - because on top of being @#$%&! soft-cock cauliflower, they are @#$%&! unbelievably lazy workmen.

Piss-poor performance Carlton, piss-poor performance MC!

In any other business if KPI's weren't being met consistently - that is integral aspects to ensure success, and especially in succession after being addressed and clarified as unacceptable, the tenure of the person in charge and in their employ would be duly questioned with at least disciplinary action the result. If this process failed to be implemented the fabric of the business would be degraded and the results catastrophic.

If players have realistic individual KPI's set and fail to meet them, after duly being warned they should be wearing red, no @#$%&! questions asked. Continually turning a blind-eye or allowing for excuses (especially handing them the excuses which is exponentially worse) undermines leadership and the core principles to achievement. If the coaches can sit back at the end of the year and honestly say that ample time has been given to said player and there is no room for improvement or their performance is still not suffice to warrant a place, than you trade them or sack them.

@#$%&! the need for Leading Teams, @#$%&! the excuse that it's a sport - it's the God-damn business of entertainment. Apply some @#$%&! professionalism and put everyone on @#$%&! notice.

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OUT: GIBBS (is the CFC gutsy enough to make this call ?), Scooter, Judd (inj), Fisher (never to return)
IN: Anyone at all who can do anything for this once-proud club.

Why does everyone keep saying this? It's complete crap (apologies, it's not an intentional attack). It's because when the player gets the ball, NO MOTHER !@#$%& PLAYER is running to create options and leading to open spaces. The !@#$%& stand around with their man by their side and either walk around of jog slowly. The ball carrier has absolutely no !@#$%& option and as the encroaching player arrives, has to dish off for fear of being pinged. This cannot be seen on the tv as the camera aspect cannot pan out far enough (this is the crux of the live vs tv debate that infuriates interstaters) to show the full birds-eye view. It was atrocious today coming out of half back with no midfielders or forwards working hard enough. You wonder why we have problems kicking in - because on top of being !@#$%& soft-cock flower, they are !@#$%& unbelievably lazy workmen.

Piss-poor performance Carlton, piss-poor performance MC!

Agree with this 100% ,was sitting in the 4th level today so had a good view of this, it is so blatenly obvious that we are lazy and I dont blame some of the defenders for turning it over as we have no one creating space when we have the ball. I dont know who we think we are, that it is somehow just going to happen without any effort.

Worst no.1 draft pick since............??

Murphy?