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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:50 pm 
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As far as I'm concerned Ratts appears too stubborn to change his tactics. He is making his own bed with this shit and I think it's time he lies in it.
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This is spot on - he's stubborn on selection day, and he's stubborn on match day. He persists with players who have no idea and banishes other for a poor game. I wish we could do the same to him.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:51 pm 
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We have the talent - there's no problem there...


Keep telling ourselves that and it just becomes one aspect of a larger problem at best. We have some talent but it all boils down to the same inability to face reality and become proactive instead of reactive. Most of our players looked like champions or would be champions at at least one stage of their career, we only see what we want to see.


It's a combination of the talent and coaching.

We have a coach who is not getting the most out of what is available to him, however we have also recruited many players who are poor decision makers/kicks.

What are your thoughts on the coaching panel Paf? You always seem to talk about recruiting/list management; give us something about match day/coaching.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:51 pm 
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FlipMode2 wrote:
Fisher - 1 possession
Betts - 3 possessions
Yarran - 3 possessions
Hampson - 3 possessions
Jamison - 3 possessions
Ellard - 3 possessions
Henderson - 4 possessions
Garlett 3 possessions
Joseph - 7 possessions

TOTAL: 30

that's 30 possessions for 9 players.
Unfair on the forwards there. The ball doesn't go up that end...lol!


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:52 pm 
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Here we come!!!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:53 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:53 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Pafloyul wrote:
The Duke wrote:
We have the talent - there's no problem there...


Keep telling ourselves that and it just becomes one aspect of a larger problem at best. We have some talent but it all boils down to the same inability to face reality and become proactive instead of reactive. Most of our players looked like champions or would be champions at at least one stage of their career, we only see what we want to see.


It's a combination of the talent and coaching.

We have a coach who is not getting the most out of what is available to him, however we have also recruited many players who are poor decision makers/kicks.

What are your thoughts on the coaching panel Paf? You always seem to talk about recruiting/list management; give us something about match day/coaching.


Talent-wise we saw that early in the year against Geelong and the Saints, you don't lose that, but for some reason the players have stopped playing for him.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:53 pm 
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Pafloyul wrote:
The Duke wrote:
We have the talent - there's no problem there...


Keep telling ourselves that and it just becomes one aspect of a larger problem at best. We have some talent but it all boils down to the same inability to face reality and become proactive instead of reactive. Most of our players have looked like champions or would be champions at at least one stage of their career, we only see what we want to see.


How much 'talent' have Collingwood got? We've got more top 10 picks than them by a mile. we just don't know how to use it.

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Judd, 2 possessions since quarter time


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:54 pm 
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Goal to Fisher - 1st goal since the 1st quarter - FMD :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:54 pm 
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The Duke wrote:
Mil Hanna wrote:

As far as I'm concerned Ratts appears too stubborn to change his tactics. He is making his own bed with this shit and I think it's time he lies in it.


This is spot on - he's stubborn on selection day, and he's stubborn on match day. He persists with players who have no idea and banishes other for a poor game. I wish we could do the same to him.[/quote]

You have Ross Lyon who comes out and takes responsibility for his team's performance - can anyone ever see Ratten doing it? It's the old arrogant Carlton syndrome - we don't need to go through a process to find the best coach, we can have jobs for the boys (Lappin and Teague) - this arrogance that we'll somehow just have success because we got Judd or the #1 picks - it's a sickness which we need to eliminate. We haven't been successful for a long time and it's time we looked for people outside the club for once instead of thinking old Carlton will just solve everything.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:54 pm 
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Give Fish a new contraqct :wink: Record books probably need to stgart coming out...


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:55 pm 
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Saddest part is I'm kind of past caring... :cry:

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:55 pm 
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A GOAL!!!! YES!!!!!

Only another 10 to go!


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:55 pm 
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We haven't been successful for a long time and it's time we looked for people outside the club for once instead of thinking old Carlton will just solve everything.


Effes we did that once - he's name was Pagan.

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Saddest part is I'm kind of past caring... :cry:

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Same feeling I had during the dark years. Others got angry, I got indifferent. I don't know what's worse.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:59 pm 
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Donstuie wrote:
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Saddest part is I'm kind of past caring... :cry:

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Same feeling I had during the dark years. Others got angry, I got indifferent. I don't know what's worse.
Indifferent is less stressful. No good stressing over what one can't control.


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You'd think Carrots would give a shit given he has supported the club all his life - but no one gives a @#$%&!.

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The filth have dropped their intensity and we still look second rate.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:59 pm 
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A point...we're within 10 goals!


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:00 pm 
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Juddernaut wrote:
I want collingwood to beat us by a 100+ so Ratten gets sacked. First time ever I've wanted to get beaten.


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