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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:36 pm 
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We have the talent - there's no problem there. They just either don't know the plan, or they don't like it. Either way it's up to the coaching staff to start from scratch.

I honestly believe that Ratten IS the Shaw, or Watson, or Spud of the CFC. Get rid of him and pay the dollars required to get the right man for the job - and do it NOW!!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:37 pm 
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Rats told them to bring their mouthguards to training a few weeks back.

I have a thought, how about making them bring their footy boots, socks, shorts and jumper this week and introduce them to the sherrin.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:38 pm 
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Maxwell Smart wrote:
I know the days of playing hard for your team, club, supporters, jumper are gone but this is "pay packet football" at its
best.

My son has been saving all season for a weekend in Melbourne to watch the Blues play ( took a big effort on his and girlfriends part )
He just rang befor half time and said they couldn't stand to watch any more and going to the pub. Works hard to watch one game in three years and this is what they dish up.


geez, Max, i feel for the poor bugger. this post should be sent to the club and stapled to every locker, jumper, wall, etc....

this shows the level some people will go to to try and watch their football club, only to have this effort thrown back at them!!!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:39 pm 
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Brett Ratten must go
Our game plan is a dogs breakfast
Our committment and footy smarts are completely non existent

But as sure as night follows day, there'll be a week of defending this nonsense by the same old TC'ers. We have gone backwards in 2010
ENOUGH

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:39 pm 
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We are a very lazy poor football team. Something smelly going on. Credit to pies showing us how to play hard committed football


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:40 pm 
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Just hoping they've got on at $22.00 the win at half time and are going to come out with all guns blazing...

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:42 pm 
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The Duke wrote:
We have the talent - there's no problem there. They just either don't know the plan, or they don't like it. Either way it's up to the coaching staff to start from scratch.

I honestly believe that Ratten IS the Shaw, or Watson, or Spud of the CFC. Get rid of him and pay the dollars required to get the right man for the job - and do it NOW!!


How's that he's gone from zip to 10 wins to 13 to 7-4 half ways until this current crash (still 9-8 about to be 9-9). Shaw and Watson never got close to that.

What he may have in common with those is for some reason the players aren't playing for him. That part is a problem big time as it stands.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:42 pm 
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This will be Ratten's last game!!!!


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:43 pm 
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ryan2000 wrote:
Sorry guys!

I'm at the game, and I have honestly never been so emmbaresed in all my life!!

Sitting on the 50mtr line on the wing, I have seen no forward line structure at all! All we do is flood. It's a disgrace.


I'm really sorry to say this, but I'm going home.......... And I'm not going to another game until this changes!


Sorry...... But supporting this style of play makes me I'll.


Nothing to apologise about Ryan. I was watching it on the tele but I've turned it off.
Something is seriously wrong at Carlton.
Bryce Gibbs had the ball about 75m out in the corridor and had an eternity and just couldn't find an option.
Eventually he kicked to a 2 on 1 against Eddie. A forward line doesn't get a better opportunity than that and
no one had a clue what they should be doing or where they should be leading.

Too stressful for me to what -- I'll go an kick a footy with my kids instead.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:45 pm 
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jim wrote:
The Duke wrote:
We have the talent - there's no problem there. They just either don't know the plan, or they don't like it. Either way it's up to the coaching staff to start from scratch.

I honestly believe that Ratten IS the Shaw, or Watson, or Spud of the CFC. Get rid of him and pay the dollars required to get the right man for the job - and do it NOW!!


How's that he's gone from zip to 10 wins to 13 to 7-4 half ways until this current crash (still 9-8 about to be 9-9). Shaw and Watson never got close to that.

What he may have in common with those is for some reason the players aren't playing for him. That part is a problem big time as it stands.


Forget about win loss ratio.

The job of the coach is to get the maximum out of the players he has available to him.

Can you honestly say Ratten is doing that?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:45 pm 
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BlueRob wrote:
I have said it before and I will say it again.

CARLTON IS THE MOST UNTALENTED TEAM IN THE AFL. PATHETIC ...

I was wrong with my groud hog prediction. He definetly sees a shadow ... Another 5 years of Winter.

I have had a gutful of this unskilled .. poor decision making pack of clowns. 3 shots at goal in one half of football.

Sack the whole team and start again.


:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:


You are seriously deluded if you think our team's lack of talent is responsible for this mess.

Apart from the fact that Ratten has obviously lost the playing group, there is something seriously wrong with Ratten if he can't at least try to change things up, or go to plan b to attempt to stop the rot.

As far as I'm concerned Ratts appears too stubborn to change his tactics. He is making his own bed with this shit and I think it's time he lies in it.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:45 pm 
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BigKev wrote:
ryan2000 wrote:
Sorry guys!

I'm at the game, and I have honestly never been so emmbaresed in all my life!!

Sitting on the 50mtr line on the wing, I have seen no forward line structure at all! All we do is flood. It's a disgrace.


I'm really sorry to say this, but I'm going home.......... And I'm not going to another game until this changes!


Sorry...... But supporting this style of play makes me I'll.


Nothing to apologise about Ryan. I was watching it on the tele but I've turned it off.
Something is seriously wrong at Carlton.
Bryce Gibbs had the ball about 75m out in the corridor and had an eternity and just couldn't find an option.
Eventually he kicked to a 2 on 1 against Eddie. A forward line doesn't get a better opportunity than that and
no one had a clue what they should be doing or where they should be leading.

Too stressful for me to what -- I'll go an kick a footy with my kids instead.


if your kids can hit a target, kev, nominate them for the draft!!!! hehehe father-son membership rule?
sorry, slow day in benderville....

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:47 pm 
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Is Murphy on Davis?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:47 pm 
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jim wrote:
The Duke wrote:
We have the talent - there's no problem there. They just either don't know the plan, or they don't like it. Either way it's up to the coaching staff to start from scratch.

I honestly believe that Ratten IS the Shaw, or Watson, or Spud of the CFC. Get rid of him and pay the dollars required to get the right man for the job - and do it NOW!!


How's that he's gone from zip to 10 wins to 13 to 7-4 half ways until this current crash (still 9-8 about to be 9-9). Shaw and Watson never got close to that.

What he may have in common with those is for some reason the players aren't playing for him. That part is a problem big time as it stands.


Ratten has Judd and some of the best top 10 picks since the birth of the draft. He HAS the talent, he just doesn't know how to use it.

He's running on CFC tickets from his glory days. If he'd come from Richmond or the Dogs he'd be shown the door.

We must be ruthless in our persuit of a flag. It's no good getting Judd across to make up the numbers. We've got 5 years to get it right and win a flag. Right now we look like we're 10 years away.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:48 pm 
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The Duke wrote:
We have the talent - there's no problem there...


Keep telling ourselves that and it just becomes one aspect of a larger problem at best. We have some talent but it all boils down to the same inability to face reality and become proactive instead of reactive. Most of our players have looked like champions or would be champions at at least one stage of their career, we only see what we want to see.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:48 pm 
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What's the lowest score a side has kicked to win by 100 pts? Anything lower than 113?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:49 pm 
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WTF has happened to Bower? He could play once!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:50 pm 
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Fisher - 1 possession
Betts - 3 possessions
Yarran - 3 possessions
Hampson - 3 possessions
Jamison - 3 possessions
Ellard - 3 possessions
Henderson - 4 possessions
Garlett 3 possessions
Joseph - 7 possessions

TOTAL: 30

that's 30 possessions for 9 players.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:50 pm 
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The Duke wrote:
jim wrote:
The Duke wrote:
We have the talent - there's no problem there. They just either don't know the plan, or they don't like it. Either way it's up to the coaching staff to start from scratch.

I honestly believe that Ratten IS the Shaw, or Watson, or Spud of the CFC. Get rid of him and pay the dollars required to get the right man for the job - and do it NOW!!


How's that he's gone from zip to 10 wins to 13 to 7-4 half ways until this current crash (still 9-8 about to be 9-9). Shaw and Watson never got close to that.

What he may have in common with those is for some reason the players aren't playing for him. That part is a problem big time as it stands.


Ratten has Judd and some of the best top 10 picks since the birth of the draft. He HAS the talent, he just doesn't know how to use it.

He's running on CFC tickets from his glory days. If he'd come from Richmond or the Dogs he'd be shown the door.

We must be ruthless in our persuit of a flag. It's no good getting Judd across to make up the numbers. We've got 5 years to get it right and win a flag. Right now we look like we're 10 years away.


Still been better than Shaw and Watson.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:50 pm 
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I want collingwood to beat us by a 100+ so Ratten gets sacked. First time ever I've wanted to get beaten.


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