Or the AFL can take some ownership and build a 30k seating stadium at Princes Park ...I am sure Bulldogs, Hawthorn, etc would be interested in leasing out some matches.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/etihad-stadium-flawed-collingwood-president-eddie-mcguire/story-e6frf9jf-1225897168197



Eddie wants to rip it down and build a new one.

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Sort what out ?

It's not a cup of coffee that needs a little extra milk.
The surface needs to be protected in the off season so it will be ok for the footy, which in turn reduces stadium revenue.

The ACDC concert caused damage that couldn't be fixed for this year.

The AFL and its lawyers would have been in contact with Collo and his lawyers but there are contracts and a lot of $ involved.

It would be naive to think that nothing has been going on behind the scenes until now.

Ripping it up is really the only way to go if the AFL wants a natural playing surface of good quality.

It's bizarre that they could get the design/orientation sooooo wrong that half the ground doesn't get direct sunlight. You can't get council or VCAT approval for a 2 unit property development without a report datailing shadow lines
This stadium was designed by amateurs in the field of roofed stadiums and due dilligence wasn't done.

If they rebuild it they could probably keep the current basement carpark and perhaps re-use a redevelopment.

As groth has said, they got the orientation wrong and the surface is never going to be any good when half of it never sees direct sunlight. The time they allowed fans onto the surface following the Carlton hammering by North a few years ago we wandered down for a look and it was like it was composed of grass clippings pressed into damp soil.

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I find it interesting that now we finally acknowledge we have an issue, yet 2 weeks ago, even with Judd raising concerns - again, there was nothing wrong with the surface!

I hate the AFL / ET admins with a passion

A soil expert rang 3AW lat night and told Gerard and Dwayne that there are stadiums in northern England and Europe that will get little sun in winter but are still in good nick because they use earthworms which enrich the soil.
He suggested it to the stadium a few years ago and they tried it but because they use artificial fertilizers it killed the worms. They can only exist with natural fertilizers. He was convinced that a successful worming treatment would fix the problem.

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groth & Woj, it's been stated several times over the years that the way it's oriented is the only way possible on that site. I know because I did a bit of a research.

The worm solution sounds promising, but the biggest problem is that the area laid for the turf simply isn't deep enough. If the structure can handle the additional weight with little or no modification, perhaps they should simply graze the whole thing, increase the soil depth with more dirt (good time to add the worms also) and knock off the inner two rows for the seating arrangement, then put in new fencing to suit.

Better welfare for their players, better spectacle for the fans as they don't slip and slide and injure themselves (plus you're a tiny bit closer to the action), and all at the cost of maybe a few mill and 500 seats.

Knowing the AFL/the stadium management however, they probably did the bare minimum in terms of engineering requirements and none of it would be possible without demolishing the whole thing. If so, they learnt nothing from Waverley except not to rely on the state government and location location location.

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I understand that jim, they committed to the wrong place in the first instance.

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Is it just a coincidence that our form slump began when we had our run of games on Etihad?
I think we play better on the bigger grounds such as the MCG and Subi, luckily we only have one more game on Etihad.

I was shocked a couple of weeks ago when watching a foxtel game on a Saturday night. After the game the commentators were giving a summary of the match and in the background the sprinklers were on. We played the Swans the next day, in an early start. It is any wonder the ground is slippery.

There is meant to be 300mm of soil but how much depth do grass roots need ?

You mention worms but clearly a major issue is the surface getting trashed by other events, and re-laid grass not having enough stress free time to root properly.

Dunno why more people aren't calling for a new stadium.
wasn't there talk of one quite near docklands a while ago?
I reckon it's a great idea to rip it down,and rebuild it..upgrade it, make it as eco friendly as possible..maybe a ittle bigger...state of the art...etc.
The locattion is fantastic..so if they can't solve it....
6 million dollar man it.

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Coldest..............

frostiest.........

dampnestest..........Melbourne winter in over ten years...........!

coe-inky-dinky..........?

me thinks not........!


kindest regards tommi

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Rumours are that Collo is sourcing cheap grass.

Know anything about that Tommi??

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Top soil alone needs 150 mm of depth.

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According to Les Burdett when asked he said it needs underground heating (just about in use at all good Soccer club grounds where it's cold), and the UV lights which they currently use.

The heating would work and encourage good root depth (something I lack)

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CHEAP.............

good luck with THAT...........!


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I dont really buy into the goals running the wrong way being a cause of the surface issues....I mean some of it gets sun and those bits are still rooted.

I can't believe in this day and age there isn't an easy solution, something from overseas they're already doing.

The problem is there are too many people doing this



and refusing to consider opinions from people who know what they're talking about.

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I think you're probably right TBB.

The fact the 2 major stakeholders (AFL & Stadiums Aust) are in denial of such a costly exercise.
That's because the shareholders (super funds) expect a good ROI, not requests for more funding.

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