Crappest game of football ever- even in the 2nd half we lacked intensity and desire. Only a few could hold their heads high. Both being Judd.

Our players seem to lack a desire to tackle and mean it and hunt the ball with intensity. Too often stand around stoppages waiting for it to dribble out.

I'm talking to you Carrazzo. Will someone tell this bloke he is the pig dog that should be at the bottom of the pack. Not waiting for receives.

We may get slaughtered by a red hot pies outfit.

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This might sound extreme in the context of alleged sexual assault, drunken violence and a drug trafficking charge...

I agree WBY, this win and the one against the Bears were the worst I can remember. We've got 4-5 players who are fundamentally dumb footballers. Russell is back to his atrocious self. Henderson needs to learn the game in the 2nds. Hampson is ordinary when he's at his best. Jacobs is a far better ruckman and footballer at this point.

Judd must be straining under the pressure of carrying these guys. We are now relying on him and blokes like Yarran and Garlett while their more experienced mates go missing.

I don't think guys like Murphy and Gibbs and Simmo and Carrazzo are no good, I just think they don't know the plan, or don't have clear direction.

I'm dreading watching the Pies hunt us to their full forward line as we continue with our cunning plan of kicking backward .

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Walker / Russell / Carrazzo's disposals are the worst I've seen. They are killing us!
3 talented players playing well below thier potential.

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Our forward structure is a joke - in fact, it's non exsistant!!!! Luckilly we put forwards up at home after half time cause there were so many situations when we'd get a break only to look up to see nobody at home. Henderson and wait are in the backline and were 25 points down????

Betts, yazz and garlett are small crumbing forwards, there to create attacking pressure....... Why are we using them as lead up forwards in some cases???

Henderson / Waite / setanta are all capable of being decent forwards yet nome of them have been effective....... Their fault or is it the way we are using them? I'm thinking the later.


3.
Murphy........ Grow a pair of balls would you you chicken shit! 2 years ago you gave fevola the evil eye for kicking long to goal instead of you when you were 20mtrs out unmarked........ Yet you go ahead and do the same!


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This business of "wer'e in the 8, where we expected to be" crap doesn't cut it with me. Play beyond expectations..... Why settle for just being ok? When the hell are you gonna get anywhere just settling for being ok?

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"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit"
- Aristotle

We won in the middle through the same set-up. Interfered with West Coast's clearance work as we were always going to lose to the NicNat/Cox combination. Sharked their taps, and disrupted the chain of possession when we didn't.

Everybody worked harder. You can see it in the stats here if you like.

Grigg, Judd & Murphy winning first possession; no one particular focus for the clearance statistics (Murphy, Judd, Grigg, Simpson & Garlett all with 4); 1%ers differentiated for the tackle count well above average, possibly a season high.

Priddis with 27 possessions, including 9 first possessions, yet only 19 disposals. West Coast won the first possession count significantly, yet we won the clearances. I'm not just suggesting you're wrong, I'm going to a great length to show you that you are absolutely and unquestionably wrong.

Clearly yourself, keogh and Synbad are sipping the same kool-aid. We weren't world beaters, but we responded and did the fundamentals properly, while re-building confidence in our team mates and skills. If Ratten continues to instil that and keeps the personalities in check, he's doing his job and we're on our way to something good.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

A 11 goal to 2 second half and people are still moaning

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A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty" -Winston Churchill

L.M 35-06

Against a side who has arguably the worst foot skills in the league and who is also placed last on the ladder.

I agree that it was a great turnaround but the point some people are trying to make is that we shouldn't have had to make a turnaround at all, the players should have played like they did in the second half from minute one.

A win is a win I suppose.

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I find it more amazing that after an 11 goal to 2 second half against the wooden spooners people think "it's all better", and the pressure is off the coach and our weak Board.

I'll excuse people watching on television because it is hard to see the structures, but I don't see how anyone watching Carlton live every week for the last 2 years can be of the opinion that our team is properly coached.

People talk about bad disposal, it's delusional. Can Murphy, Scotland, Simpson, Gibbs, Judd, Jamison and Russel and everyone else not kick? Really? Wrong. We've seen with our own eyes that they can all have near perfect disposal.

No, what people think is bad disposal is actually complete lack of confidence in where teammates will be and where the ball should be moved on to.

Don't worry - we will beat Essendon* and Richmond. We haven't lost to a bottom 4 team for 2 years because we have enough talent!

We will subsequently fall into the 8. And there will be enough delusional people thinking that we're on the right track for Ratts to keep his job. Maybe Lappin and the rest of the stoogers can keep their job too. Charity!

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Your talking utter crap Beek.

How does running into an open goal and miss as per Betts and Garlett in the first half not equate to poor disposal. You don't need a plan to kick the goal. That's lack lack of confidence in the player himself. Ratt's can't be blamed for that.

Walker kicks to a bloke 25 yards away standing in space and it goes over his head. Is that a bad game plan or bad disposal. You're delusional

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THats right WA. We missed so many sitters in the first half and gave up so many with bad kicks in the backline. Nothing tricky about the kicks or the tactics just straight up bad kicks that Ratts' game plan cant surely be the blame for.
Rewatch it Beek and tell me i am wrong.

jimmae, jimmae, jimmae.....
If you look at the stats here it clearly points it out for you stats

Maybe we need the same beer goggles your wearing to see the game that only you can see.

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12-5-2015 - Go WADA
18-8-2015 - Suffer Hird* u lying flower
12-1-2016 - CAS goes bang, happy new year.. Drugcheats forever..

WA Blue, you are not looking at the BIGGER PICTURE that I think Simon is trying to paint. The team is not being coached well enough. If they are not properly drilled, with a playing style that is comprehensively sorted out so they can carry it out with confidence, then when the pressure is on they crumble. Without that confidence in the plan, it filters to through to their team mates, and themselves. A recipe for disaster as we have seen too many times this year.

Same thing with the coaches themselves. I mean not only Ratts but guys like Lappin and Harvey as well go missing when the pressure is on. Tactically, there doesn't seem to be a great amount of nous in the coaches box. And while I am bitching, why not a key position coach for youngsters such as Henderson and Casboult? Even Hampson could benefit. Getting a guy like Matthew Lloyd on a part time basis would be invaluable.

Mind you, I liked the plan of playing Waite and Henderson down back against the Eagles. It finally opened the forward line up. Something that we see too rarely nowadays.

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"Get ready, Teddy - you're on": Ron Barassi half time 1970 Grand Final

No probs Ted. I'm not saying Ratt's has nothing to answer for but I'm sick of posters blaming him for every single thing. Players also need to take resposibility.

You cant tell me the game plan was re written at half time on the weekend.

Funnily enough players began to hit targets (whether it was the Eagles pressure dropping off or not, I doubt it did) and our fortunes changed. Shots at goal eventually started going through and I could see our players lift all over the ground.

And with that came a little confidence. That's not a game plan problem. That's a skills problem.

I do agree that if the players are doubtful about the game plan they can loose confidence. But I can assure you no game plan can work with poor skills. Perhaps it's a chicken or the egg question.

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I support the Navy Blues whatever happens!

Murph was a big part of the victory. In fact he's an important part of most of ours.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Didn't even address the points I'd made. Case closed.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

I don't think any one is suggesting that. It's one half of football, although not dissimilar from the 2nd half we produced against the Swans and our form earlier in the season.

We're still under pressure and there's still plenty of work to be done but it was good football and there were positive signs. There was absolutely a structure to it.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Wasn't even worth addressing...

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31-3-2015 - R.I.P AFL, corrupted lying pricks
12-5-2015 - Go WADA
18-8-2015 - Suffer Hird* u lying flower
12-1-2016 - CAS goes bang, happy new year.. Drugcheats forever..

I think what you will find this year unlike any other year is the teams at the bottom of the ladder are actually trying to win. We are into round 17 and the tanking talk which normally surfaces after the mid season break is non existent.

Dont know how many watched Footy Classified last night but did anyone pick up something Caro said. They were talking about the North/Essendon* game and the emergency player situation at Etihad. She said that Rod Austin had another problem at the same time with a Carlton player wearing an illegal arm/wrist guard.
Anyone know anything about this?

Yep people forget that in the past, by now, teams would have put their club in the bag. Not this year. This year every team would love to knock us off - and that's the way it should be.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

FAIL

you're*

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