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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:06 am 
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and hows the wankers booing judd?

pricks

and talking up naitanui cos he is 7 years younger and has more hair , then he shanked the kick

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:24 am 
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The booing for Judd is ridiculous. Time to lose that chip on your shoulder Eagles fans.

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1st half = dumb footballers playing dumb, uncommitted, apathetic footy

2nd half = dumb footballers playing simple, committed, passionate footy.

The epitome of dumb award goes to Waite, getting himself reported in junk time of a dead game.

And wanker of the week should surely go to Mark Le Crap - I never realised what a whining, arsey little cheat he was. Biggest West Coast wanker sinceKarlLangdon.


I lost my shit completely when JR shoved him and he pissed and moaned acting like he'd been shot. Thank god he's completely selfish and always goes for the flashy freak goal.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:24 am 
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bosman wrote:
Ordinary.... bottom team made us look rank in that first half...

2nd half..... only looked good because wet toast dropped off the pressure...

Wrong.

This was very much our game to lose and that's exactly what we did in the first half. West Coast played the whole game the same until half way through the last quarter. We need to lift, but we should have learn from the last two games.

Could not have been more disappointed with the first half. School-boy errors all round. The second half, the midfield lifts and suddenly the whole team looks better. We live and die by the midfield now; that is the state of our team and we'll have to accept that.

Russell did just OK on Le Cras; conceded way too many stupid frees. Bower ran off Kennedy too much and it only worked for him late. Jamison took too much time executing unless he was running the switch. Still did their job when asked of them.

Murphy & Gibbs lifted their attack of the ball, Carrazzo lifted his work-rate and harassment, as did Joseph. The playing surface played a role, but so did good old G&D, along with the associated rise in confidence that comes with decent play.

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anyone know what has happened to army?


He has a compressed C6 vertebrae (as reported on the telly). I'm not exactly sure what that means, but I don't think it's real flash in terms of him playing in the near future.

Let me put it this way: C1 is the first vertebrae at the base of the skull. It's not looking flash at all for him in the short-term. The poster who said 6 months is probably close to the money if the scans come up with anything.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:24 am 
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A great, gritty determined win. Well done Blues. Now lets knock the Woods off top spot and show that we are not just making up numbers. And silence our feral 'supporters'.

Bad old Collingwood forever, they dont know how to play the game. Side by side they fall apart, to uphold the Magpie name. Hear the barrackers a booooooing. As all barrackers should. Ohh the premierships in dream land for the bad old Collingwood....

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:33 am 
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Waitey - I guess he's not going to change his erratic ways. He was a whisker away from another lengthy holiday with that bump which would've been disaster for the team as I think he provides a great option in defence. I much prefer him down back with Bower.

Speaking of Bower, he is developing into a quality modern day attacking KPD. Hope he gets over his niggles as he is vital to our fortunes.

You can see Hammer growing in confidence. Just needs games, games and more games.

Same with Hendo, although you'd have to expect he'd soon start to tire as he's only 20 years old.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:41 am 
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Scrappy game in the first half. I was tempted to walk away from footy for the rest of the year at the very least. Then Yazz did what no other player could do, put it over the goal umpires head and the light started to flicker..

Can't wait to see yazz in action against the pies, clearly the most skillfull player on our list.....

Good to see Hammer continue to grow, and Grigg primed for his favourite team.

Bower, our most importent defender IMHO, getting better with more run in his legs....

I just pray we come out of the blocks much better next week... :eek:

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Had we been playing a decent team we would have been 60 points behind at half time. They were pathetic. No confidence at all and the same team we have seen for a month.
I don't know what Ratts told them at half time but I suspect it might have involved Murphy and Gibbs to the Ants next week. After taking a short step to avoid body contact 7 minutes before half time, Murphy's second half was more like his early career. Gibbs is still wasted and has to be played in the mids. Walker had an ordinary game and I am still wondering if he will ever realize his potential.
Grigg looked composed and must stay in the team as he provides penetration and grunt.
Robbo can take over from Armfield next week. We will need pace and hard bodies against Collingwood. Our forward setup has to be inplace for next week. Harry O'Brien is currently my favourite backline player and unless he is on someone who can curb his run, he will cut us to shreds. Their mids are front runners so we have to start fast.

In short, we can't afford to play like we did last night or a 100 point thrashing awaits.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:06 am 
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First time on the forum - thanks for having me.

I agree wholeheartedly with Conundrum. Huge concerns over our defence - Walker and Jamieson particularly poor. Jamieson just doesnt seem to have any INTENT in his game. The really good defenders relish roughing their opponenets up a little, Jamo has absolutely none of that in his game and we need him to BADLY. He's a big lad, kicks it nicely but.....it must be the coaching!

I think the same can be said of the Blues accross the board - we have so little mongrel in the team. Judd, Waite, Russell being the exeptions, when it gets tough, we simply don't have the grunt. I'm resigned to Murphy always being soft, but I'm sure Gibbs could be coached to be harder. We miss Kreuz more than I thought in this area. I really do put this down to coaching.

Sigh, I don't know. Maybe we're better off missing the finals if it means giving Ratts the boot. I just don't see a team knowing what they're meant to be doing out there. Since the success we had with our 'move it on at all costs' type of Kamikaze game, we have been found out as horribly one dimensional. Our 'tempo' game they spoke so much about is just kicking it sideways on the halfback line when the oppo has kicked a few goals against us. We do that until it's turned over.

I'm just a punter and dont pretend to have the answers. But the other thing about Ratten is that he doesn't SEEM intelligent. I know its surface level but all of the Premiership coaches I remember conduct themselves in a way that makes you think - he's a smart dude. I DO NOT get that impression with Ratts. He comes to press conferences with 2 meaningless statistics about the game and tries to sound like Mark Thompson or some kind of sports scientist. Unconvincingly.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:22 am 
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Since the success we had with our 'move it on at all costs' type of Kamikaze game, we have been found out as horribly one dimensional. Our 'tempo' game they spoke so much about is just kicking it sideways on the halfback line when the oppo has kicked a few goals against us. We do that until it's turned over.

Welcome to the forum, but you got to see a composed version of our tempo footy last night: we worked hard to present for the ball as it was moved up the wing I think in the second or third quarter, but ate up over a minute in doing so, frustrated the opposition and worked our way into the forward 50.

That's the real tempo footy; the kind Syndey play and Adelaide use in stints. Icing the clock is a very rudimentary form (that Sheedy first implemented IIRC), but it's what the boys seem to revert to when they want to slow the game down and they're under pressure. I think what we saw last night is what Ratten actually wants.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:01 am 
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is Waitey likely to miss?? Was it the incident when he gave a 50 away in the goalsquare?

Im worried with his carry over points etc. we really need this bloke against the pies

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:14 am 
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Audio from Ratten's presser. Initial discussion on Armfield, then general game comments...

http://tinyurl.com/2010RattsR17

(Can someone please tell Ratts the saying is "early days" and not "early doors".) :razz:

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:21 am 
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Couple of encouraging tweets from @Carlton_FC

"We have just landed at Melbourne airport. Great to see Dennis Armfield made the team flight back from Perth following scans in hospital."

"Dennis gives the Carlton fans a thumbs up at Melbourne Airport early this morning. http://tweetphoto.com/34664989"

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It's doors. It's a Northern English phrase.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:07 pm 
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It's doors. It's a Northern English phrase.


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camelboy wrote:
Audio from Ratten's presser. Initial discussion on Armfield, then general game comments...

http://tinyurl.com/2010RattsR17

(Can someone please tell Ratts the saying is "early days" and not "early doors".) :razz:



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:03 pm 
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Wasn't the smartest thing for Waite to get reported at that stage of the game. That being said, surely he couldn't go for that.

Haven't watched the replay yet but my impressions from being at the ground was that he was very good at both ends for us. Definately showed signs he was working in to some really good form.

We need him up and going to be competitive against the top sides imho.

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I wish Murphy played with the same intensity he played at in the 3rd quarter. Murphy at that level is one of best midfielders in the comp.

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stroby1 wrote:
First time on the forum - thanks for having me.

I agree wholeheartedly with Conundrum. Huge concerns over our defence - Walker and Jamieson particularly poor. Jamieson just doesnt seem to have any INTENT in his game. The really good defenders relish roughing their opponenets up a little, Jamo has absolutely none of that in his game and we need him to BADLY. He's a big lad, kicks it nicely but.....it must be the coaching!

I think the same can be said of the Blues accross the board - we have so little mongrel in the team. Judd, Waite, Russell being the exeptions, when it gets tough, we simply don't have the grunt. I'm resigned to Murphy always being soft, but I'm sure Gibbs could be coached to be harder. We miss Kreuz more than I thought in this area. I really do put this down to coaching.

Sigh, I don't know. Maybe we're better off missing the finals if it means giving Ratts the boot. I just don't see a team knowing what they're meant to be doing out there. Since the success we had with our 'move it on at all costs' type of Kamikaze game, we have been found out as horribly one dimensional. Our 'tempo' game they spoke so much about is just kicking it sideways on the halfback line when the oppo has kicked a few goals against us. We do that until it's turned over.

I'm just a punter and dont pretend to have the answers. But the other thing about Ratten is that he doesn't SEEM intelligent. I know its surface level but all of the Premiership coaches I remember conduct themselves in a way that makes you think - he's a smart dude. I DO NOT get that impression with Ratts. He comes to press conferences with 2 meaningless statistics about the game and tries to sound like Mark Thompson or some kind of sports scientist. Unconvincingly.


Hi stroby..I think Ratts is most likely a very intelligent person..maybe what he says at times is just the way he re-acts under stress.
ie..he strikes me as an introverted nature, so when the lights and camera come on, he probably wants to hide, and covers himself with stats,and other deflective clothing. :grin:
I like him very much, because I know how much he loves Carlton, and I can see that he is entirely earnest.
After watching Mathew Knights and his vindictive 'I know who you are now' alienating speech, and his stupid death stares, I would hate for us to have someone like MK. no integrity...that to me is unintelligent.

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