Army: if it is a C6, there are apparently many other variables, including ligament damage and possible damage to spinal chord (which I doubt given he played on for a bit..) BUT, if it is C6, my info is minimum 6 months. Maximum never play again. That's the expert advice. My layman optimistic Carlton supporter sitting on the couch opinion: He'll be right 1st half of next season.

apart from that:
Our intensity was finally ignited. pity we couldn't bring that from beginning of the match (not to mention the last few weeks!)
Hampson continues to improve.
Was Grigg's best game this season.
Judd lifted his effectiveness.
Simpson sparked us (again...) with Judd.
Yarran keeps improving.
Waite was important, especially helping stem the tide forward & back when we were struggling.
Ellard did an excellent job, given his debut for the season. (100% reverse disposal efficiency early on notwhithstanding)
Still much more improvement required to stay within 8 goals of the pies but, as others have pointed out, hawthorn started its run looking a lot worse... (of course, they had carlton to gladly work them back into form....)
if we can win 2 more matches, i reckon we will play finals, given the kangas loss. (if we only win 2 more matches, we probably don't deserve to be there!)

If we can't get ourselves up for a game against those f$#%ers next week then there is something wrong.

Hopefully that second half will kick start our form for the last 5 games.

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TO add a little perspective to this win...

We won by 26


At home this year WCE lost to geelong by 24, Adelaide by 22, StK by 35, PA by 3 (while they were playing well), WBD by 60 odd.. and beat Ess by 23 and Hawks by 8 (While they weren't going so well).. so our score seems pretty stock standard for where we're at esp considering they came in with all the confidence and everything on earth going Le Cras' way.

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...and they are last on the ladder..

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...another....straw....

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haha just using the straw u gave me in the lead up....hmaar

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Yep i would say being 4 goals better than the eagles at home is an accurate indication of where we are at. In fact we where are on the ladder is about where we should be with out list. We are in the process of phasing out a bunch of older experienced players that were not going to win a flag. Fev Stevens Houla and Thornton all taken out of last years team. THat is a lot of experience that may have got us across the line a couple of times but were not the answer going forward.

So 4 goals better than WC and 9 wins so far is about par.

Subiaco oval is a shithole

eat shit retarded eagles fans

we are a very average football team

Chris johnson impressed me

I refrained from punching the wanker eagle fan behind me

nice turnaround thought we were gawn

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Yeah but if you bet on WCE you'd win $4!!!!

In a funny kind of way this was a far more admirable win than the Lions game.

We were dead and buried at half time and managed to play with genuine intent and solid pressure in the second half. Sure, the quality of opposition might not have been the best, but we played with an intensity that has been missing for far too long.

The result next week doesn't bother me too much. I just want our guys to carry on with the desire and pressure they finally mustered up in the second half tonight.

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To come back from 27 points down at half time interstate and in the end comprehensively win the game showed some good fight and spirit that was lacking in the last month or so...
If we can take the same fight into next week's game, you never know what can happen...
Waite didnt hit the Toastrs guy in the head so should be alright to play next week...

P.S. Love how the Eagles haven't come near us since Judd gave them the arse to come to Carlton...

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Just like the game against the lions, another unimpressive win.

First half was embarrassing and an average side would not have let us back into the game just like Sydney made us pay for an insipid fist quarter.

Our defence is a mess.They tend to overrun the ball, lay ineffective tackles and miss targets from short range. I cringe every time we play keeping off possession in our defensive half and the ball ends going backwards to the last line of defence with a players like Jamieson, Walker or Carrazzo in possession.Cant believe when on a roll and in the later stages of the game we tried to consolidate and play possession in our back half. We had them on their knees and we nearly managed to stuff it up only to be saved by Le Cras selfishness and poor kicking at goals from West Coast.

Walker is badly out of form and a liability at the moment. I assume still down on confidence since coming back from injury. Cant kick, tackle and basic fumbling errors on the ground is costing us goals. I hope he gets back some of the form that saw him dominate. Jamieson is lucky we don't have defensive depth because he would be joining Thornton. He needs to do more and do it better as all he does is provide defensive spoil. Disposal under pressure very ordinary.

Bower is by far our most competent defender but unfortunately we cant clone him. Russell may make mistakes but in his defence is prepared to have a go. Great 1%percenters and Shut LeCras down in the second half.

Grigg had his best game in a while. Read the play well and only on a few occasions did he boot it long without properly assessing his options. I though Yarran continues to show his class even when things aren't going our way. Prepared to back himself in front of goal unlike Betts who always looks to lay it off. We need to get the ball to him a lot more often. Ellard 's disposal was poor early. Cost us. Different tempo to what he had been accustomed to. But lets not understate his contribution in nullifying their premier midfielder. Laid a quarter of the teams tackles. When he tackles they stick. Not only did he keep Priddis down to a low possession game whatever possession he got was largely ineffective and underthe pump. Saw Cox lay a shepherd for Priddis and wondered why don't our ruckman do likewise for Judd. Was impressed with Ellards game and has the qualities to make a quality tagger. I hope he gets given plenty of game time. I did not see anything to suggest his height or weight to be an issue.

Our kicking to our forwards is disgraceful. Since when is it okay to kick it long to Betts? Betts should be waiting for the crumbs Lack the players who show composure to hold possession until better shorter options appear. Too many times did we bomb it long where we did not have a tall marking option. Good sides dont make those mistakes.

We were well beaten in the ruck duels. Not surprising 42 hit out outs to 30. What started off our impetus in the second half were our mids who were roving to West Coast tap outs. Wilth priddis well held, Judd Grigg Simmo and Murphy had a field day. Still prefer Jacobs to Warnock around the ground. Warnock is ineffective. One kick and one two grabbed mark is not enough of a return for my liking. Until Warnock is prepared to fly for marks with both hands he will be a liability.

Didn't see the game, at the opera if you don't want to know...(Julius Ceasar...geez I miss Pratt)....from what I've read I agree with Dominator; our backs were against the wall, there must have been some soul searching at half time. Great to hear second tier, and newer, players contributed. They're the players that will drive a good culture.

ps how's the afl website headline: "Don't blame Fev for Lion's woes: Voss". That is one big monkey off our back, and Hendo is here to stay and play.

Compressed disc at C6 - can be only minor provided it settles and goes back in, however at worst it can be devastating - severe nerve pain, weakness, muscle spasm the list goes on....

As a sufferer of constant sciatic pain (nerve pain down the leg) for the past year due to a compressed disc at L4-L5 (lower back), I hope to god that Army's disc damage is not serious.

All the best Army!!

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A win's a win, however, there are some schizophrenic posters on this board. It seems it is alright to acknowledge that we have problems but whenever anyone suggests something concrete that can actually be done about it, the hackles are raised. Do we just get in the drill instructor from Full Metal Jacket to make intermittent forays to Carlton and suddenly we'll be a real finals threat?

It would be easy if it was like that but we all know it isn't.

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Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

I very nearly jumped the fence in the first half we were that bad.

Gee we can butcher the ball. We turn it over in the defensive half and it just kills us.

I actually thought the effort was there early but we couldn't convert and would then hand them easy goals either via turnovers or very ordinary defence. I noticed in the warm up just before the game that not many shots on goal went through and what do you when the game starts?

Make no mistake, we were all but dead and buried at half time.

Absolutely rapt with the second half and will gladly take an ugly win, especially given our recent form. I just hope we still learn what we have to and don't get too carried away with the great turnaround. Against a better side, we don't come away with a win imho.

BTW - WA Blues fans are the shit!!!

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1st half = dumb footballers playing dumb, uncommitted, apathetic footy

2nd half = dumb footballers playing simple, committed, passionate footy.

The epitome of dumb award goes to Waite, getting himself reported in junk time of a dead game.

And wanker of the week should surely go to Mark Le Crap - I never realised what a whining, arsey little cheat he was. Biggest West Coast wanker since Karl Langdon.

Just a minor point, but I think putting Stevens in the same category as the other three is a little rough. The guy was battling with a severe neck injury for the best part of two years. Actually took a fair bit of bravery for him to even get out there. Sure, he had his deficiencies but if he was 100% fit, he would still be very much a required player for us. His foot skills in particular (off both sides) would be very useful given our current problems in that dept.

In terms of the other three, some would also defend Houla in terms of his role this season, but I tend to agree that we need a player that can do more than him. Comment on Thornton and Fev is pretty reasonable. Overall, I think the general lack of experienced players will remain a problem for the next 2 years, when Murph and Gibbs have really matured, along with a few others.

For my two bobs worth, against a half decent side, we would have been so far behind at half time it would not have mattered how well we played in the second half. Watching Hawthorn and St.Kilda go at it Friday night, we are so far behind in intensity and desire for the ball at the moment that we are just making up numbers in the top eight.

As far as our old nemisis turnovers are concerned, when will someone tell Carazzo not to do cute things with the ball? He can't! If he keeps to the basics he is a half decent player, same with Walker.

But the skill level picked up in the second half and the turnovers dropped away and that is what the side has got to take away from the game.

Two questions,

1. for next week, who takes poor Armfield's place?
2. was Waite's report a joke or what? A hip and shoulder that collected the guy on the shoulder and he get reported for rough conduct. You literally can't bump an opponent any more?

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hell yeah we are !

here have a spoon you cauliflower !!!

(not that they will win the wooden spoon - but @#$%&! em anyway)

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.