A 'coon skin cap ?

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I hope Essendon* folds.

So true.

If we make the 8, with the pressure he's been under, Ratts will surely coach another year.

But if we finish 10th like many are predicting, it will be really interesting to see what Sticks does. I bet he is really not looking forward to making that call.

START OFFENDING THE OFFENDABLE!

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

I don't think anyone who doesn't want Ratts as coach thinks he has no understanding of football.

My issue is I am not sure he makes a good coach, they are seperate issues. Understanding the game doesn't make a great coach, takes much more than that.

If I was taking bets on whether Ratts would be there next year, I think if we don't make the 8, hes gone. Unless I see more than a plan A and some kind of ability to change things up when their not going well, I want him gone.

Well I haven't read the previous 16 pages, so this may have been said.

Anyhow - from the outside looking in, the MOST frustrating aspect of the previous couple of months is what appears to be a complete absence of internal urgency about the current situation.

Two key answers from Ratts in the last week are revelatory - first the answer about the outside world not rating Carlton, therefore it's a source of humor that anyone should be upset with our current position. Second the experience gap against Sydney being the chief reason for the early smashing we received there.

I mean, can you build in any more excuses to lean on? Could you perhaps show any more complacency? To me they were sickening answers. I can't believe a coach of the Carlton football club would give players performing that badly a free pass, when our season is on the line. I'm not asking for him to pot the players (or himself), but jesus H - claiming that no one thought we'd be any good so it's all ok is absolute crap.

We've shown enough against the highest quality opposition to suggest we could contend if our heads are on straight..... and the mentality from the person most responsible for getting the team in the right spot and keeping them there is building in excuses for the playing group? The time is now.

I don't need to know what they're doing behind closed doors to sort out this mess, but what I do expect is to hear from the Coach/CEO/President (Ratts to me is a symptom, not the cause) a clear message that everyone is hurting and they are leaving no stone unturned getting to the bottom of things, as in - maybe not get blown out of the water early doors then drop our heads.

It's almost like the entire club has decided that they've got a free swing this year with Fev going and everyone outside the club downgrading expectations. Piss poor mentality to have, and I have seen/heard nothing to suggest this isn't the case.

Nothing being said recently indicates there's any kind of blowtorch being applied internally, at ANY level. Coach to player, management to coach, board to management.

We have shown enough that to suggest that any team playing us on a sunny day in September would be damn worried about stopping us, and it's a massive disappointment that going on public comments, there doesn't seem to be a lot of hurt around the club that our opportunity this year is passing us by.

Seems to be a major lack of accountability. Accountability breeds urgency. And urgency doesn't have to be some kind of misguided witch hunt, but something a little better than using external expectations, or selectively picking out stats to support a defense at this stage is required.

the fact is....Mr and Mrs M Malthouse were guests of Ms J Pratt at last nights production of "The King and I"

make of it what you will....

some may like to fantasize that where there is smoke there is fire....

but not me...I just think Mick appreciates a good stage musical.

MM stated this week in the media that the Collingwood job will be his last in coaching.
Speculating is a waste of time.

People say stuff all the time. Doesn't mean much, really.

Remember two weeks ago, James Brayshaw was saying that North Melbourne is a melbourne-based team, and they will never play any home games outside of Victoria? While he was saying that, he was negotiating with the AFL to play 4 home games in Hobart.

Malthouse hates the media, and will happily lie to them just to get them to stop asking him questions. Not saying he'd be interested but words are just that.

Mick , like the late D Pratt, takes a very active interest in environmental issues.

Maybe they are just good company.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

And a fun way to do it!

I know a bit about footy Brad
I am also 47. Body isnt what it used to be but with age comes experience. That counts for something

Someone said they would love Ratts to coach their son's junior side but not Carlton.

His only game plan has been exposed and he has no answers.

He is too soft on the players

Gibbs should be dropped. He is a liablity at the moment

Warnock gets a game for playing crapola footy against an ordinary footy side in perfect conditions. I was there at Chirnside Park. He was shit.
Jacobs has clearly been our best ruckman


Ratten was handed the job compared to other coaching appointments
Thats what appens when you have people like our President stuck in the 80s culture

To get the best coach available you need a good month to find him
Then another month to put your faith in that bloke to get the right support stuff

So much of what is said by people in the media as you guys would admit is just spin.

Brayshaw example is the perfect example .

Didnt Ratts say making the finals with a win there was the goal
Didnt the same man come in and say to the meda that'You guys didnt pick us to make the 8"

@#$%&! me gently


One game plan
Soft players
Whose fault is it

Not entirely Rattens obviously

Bryce Gibbs needs a rocket firmly planted up his arse. He obviously takes after his dad . Ross didnt like to get his shorts dirty
Cant get away with it these days though.


Ultimatey the buck stops with the senior coach.
He is the bloke in charge


ITS THAT SIMPLE

If only we had Aker.

Really?

So why do you crap on like you know little about it?



How do you know this?
Do you see what happens behind the scenes at training each week?
Do you see what happens af half-time?
Can you lip read whats said at the three quarter time huddle?

Mate, you wouldn't have a clue how hard he is on the players, so why say something so silly?

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

You have to be joking Brad
Hasnt our last 2 efforts been proof enough for you
And one guy who does put his body in gets dropped for a guy who drops his head in marking contests.

Get real Brad
I can see we have lost the plot

Its like so many other posters on this website

The argument is you know @#$%&! all before you arnt directly involved with the flower club.

keep that argument going and I will stick by what I say

You might have to explain this one to me. Why can't Ratts say both those things. Why can't the goals that he has for the club be different to what the media thinks about the club.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Clearly the statements contradict themselves.
Ratten is at a media conference
The journos no matter what scumbags they are are paid to ask the questions
Not vice versa
Thats called deflection Cazzeman.
Clearly Ratten is under pressure to say such a dumb thing to the media
And its embarrasing for him to say it because I love the club
Have done it for 40 years
But I dont like what it stands for at the moment.

If we lose tonight and the Roos win, the comments from last week become null and void. Will Ratten accept the club is in crisis? Will he go into self preservation mode? The pressure showed last week.

On the other side of the coin we win and we continue on.

I don't know how you can think you know whats happening unless you are directly involved with the club.

Unless you were watching training, their lead up to the game and the pre match to be able to judge for yourself how well they were prepared for the game....and I mean making an informed assessment, not guessing like you are now.

How do you know the effort of the last 2 weeks wasn't because he's being too hard on them. Maybe bringing the mouthguards to training stretched them too far and thats why they were flat in the first quarter against Sydney.

If we're all aware they've been starting their games flat, you can bet Ratts knows. He's obviously been unable to identify why its happening and he's spending 80 hours a week at the club, around the players, analysing it with a support staff...yet keogh can tell from watching them on the TV for 2 hours.

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

Brad think of it like this.

Without knowing you personally I bet you have friends who are couples
And I bet you have thought to yourself Jeez how can they be happy.

The bloke in it probably doesnt really know either.

Thats why heaps of guys are shocked when the misses flowers off.

Point is sometimes you CAN SEE something far clearer from afar than someone who is actually involved in it.

Hey I might be wrong and I will be the first person to put my hand up if I am.

Thing is after the doggies game I walked out with a sinking feeling that I havent felt before

It said we are [REDACTED] unless the broom comes out.

I hope your not so narrowminded to think that 2 guys who are legends of the club worth nearly 500 games of experience makes them the best qualified individuals to take us to the promised land.