Either you're being mischievious or just plain stupid SB.
As I said, horses for courses. They had the right idea, it's just that they were one week too late.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

The biggest problem with our forwardline at the moment is that Setanta is clearly not fit, and Waite is suspended. Either of them fit ant playing would make a big difference.

Just Shit stirring BV

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

I wish or forward line, we do have one i think, should stay closer to goal. There were many times on Sunday when there was noone within 50 metres of our goal and when we did get possession there was noone to kick it to and we had to hold it up waiting for forwards to run back. This just played in the bulldogs hands as they were quicker than us and by the time our forwards got back so did the backline (and Lake).

I blame the kicking into the fwd line just as much. When Armfield is 70m out, with nobody within 40 mtrs in front of him, should he:

a) Bomb it to the top of the goal square for the midgets to mark it?
b) Run inside 50 and take a shot himself?

He chose A. I reckon most forwards would/should assume B.

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Good strong power forwards will mark the ball even if it isnt delivered correctly.

We will need to make a BIG play for one of Dangerfield, Roughead, Petrie, Pavlic.... or dangle a second/third rounder at Mitch Morton, Jesse White,

Bring in Fisher and Waite and use them as tall forwards along with Henderson. Setanta on current form has to go. The small forwards can come from Betts, Yarran, Garlett, Houlihan, Robinson and the resting midfielders like Murphy and Judd. Fisher is a decent link man and is willing to work up the ground but the majority of the time he should stay deep where we can exploit his strong marking and reduce the chances of his dodgy kicking being an issue.

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There is no point to playing fisher. How does that develop us into a premiership side? You roll the dice and give Casboult a run or you bring in Warnock and see how Hampson or Jacobs goes for a full game up forward.

Casboult.

How many games have you seen him play? He's not a legitimate VFL player yet let alone AFL.
You dont burn kids just to appease impatient supporters.

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I dont know why so many write off Fisher, he has only just turned 26 a few months ago and could still have 5 years ahead of him. whether he is good enough is another question but is he any worse that Setanta who is older than him?

hampson, henderson, casboult, betts, yarran, gartlett, robinson, waite.
maybe a couple will be ok in a few years

-maybe we should look at cheap vfl players, thorpe, post?
-maybe we should look at drafting one or two?

The problem with the forward line is Eddie and Garlett should be crumbing the ball - Not marking options!!!!

Thats a job for a O'Hailpin and Hampson to do, to contest or bring the ball down where these to weave there magic. If they keep getting used as 'marking options' your just playing there and the teams advantage.

everyone needs to lead and provide an option its just stupid not to. You want Eddie to just run around at the feet of Hammer? Silly ploy.

We need, though, to keep players in some sort of structure n the forward line. Too many times on sunday you'd see a player look up and see no one or see 1 or 2 of our blokes and a sea of swannies. I think we've got to rejig the balance and the structure of that forward line. For me, that would not include telling eddie or garlett not to lead or mark a ball.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

DID I SAY THAT! they can offer leads and be hit up SHEESH!!!! They can use there pace to offer leads but........

WHAT IM SAYING is why are we kicking LONG to a SMALL Eddie Betts and Gartlett who continually get spoiled and are out of the contest because they are trying to out jump a 200cm opponent rather than hit the ball when it comes to ground. WE AREN'T PLAYING TO THERE STRENGTHS which is there blistering pace at ground level and the ability to crumb.

FAR OUT BRUSSELS SPROUTS

The issue has little to do with kicking it to eddie - in fact when we were doing well we were doing the same thing - probably more so. The problem is that eddie and garlett, and the rest of the side, are not in good positions or, if they are, we miss the target anyway.

On a side note I thought Garlett's mark in the pack was great - here's a kid that is taking steps week by week!

the issue though, is this -

How many kicks (was it 3?) did Murph have from the centre of the ground (after getting a free) and instead of kicking it long - even to @#$%&! Betts v Mumford (although that never did happen but hey, go for the fantasy), instead went the dinky pass that hit a swan's player on the chest. The group's confidence is shot. We can all dribble off the reasons we think the confidence is shot, pretend we understand what the club is or isn't doing etc,
but what i want is for some changes to the structure/delivery that includes kicking the ball long - even if it is to Eddie or Garlett! I'd rather that than a dinky kick to an opposition player's chest!

Everyone loves to carry on about Ratts etc - its what happens when losses pile up. But in the end it means jack shit until you get (or don't get) that change

for me, what matters most, is seeing how the club deals with the growing pressure, lack of confidence, inablity to tackle, kick goals, defend etc .

What players step up?

What players fall away?

What changes are made structurally? Do they work? Do they reveal an unknown gem?

Things are going poorly - good, its time the team developed some steel, some nerves, some understanding of what is required - that comes from adversity - so here is our adversity. Learn from it!

If we do not, then the Ratten head loppers will get their wish and the new coach will come along and we'll have to wait for the next bit of adversity and see how they cope (and the new coach copes) then

if we do cope and change and develop

then we are a step closer to our goal.

And that is what i want - regardless of who the @#$%&! is the coach!

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Our forward 50 entry strategy (and I use that word lightly) has gone from kick it to Fev to kick it to Eddie...

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no its gone from kick it to eddie and others to kick it to the opposition cos when it was kick it to eddie (and others) it was working

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

WE need viable marking targets leading to the hot spot if we are going into the forwardline with confidence.

I like the idea of Waite and Hampson being in the dangerous area with at leat 1 crumber running back and the others are options....run around in circles if that's where the spaces are.

Subiaco is a big ground. There will be lots of space to work in and get a bit of form.

I am even considering Setanta and Fisher as targets in the FF area if Jammo is dropped and Waite plays in the backline.

We've got to have targets in all that space...and absolutely our execution has to improve 100%.
There's no point kicking it to our opponents as we've found out in the last fortnight in particular.

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To me we get caught to much that forces the turnover - other teams have more time and space so the delivery is a lot better - Ours always seemed to be rushed

It could be we dont protect the kicker
It could be the forwards dont move to the right place at the right time forcing us to prop and stop
It could be they are endurance fit and not sprint fit - which could explain the slow starts and better finishes
It could be they are crap kickers of the ball


I am still very disappointed we didnt persist with Kruezer up forward it was a golden opportunity to develop the kid into a truely great forward along with Hendo and Waite pinch hitting especailly with three other rucks in the squad - I know he was playing his best football on the ball but we were screaming out for a replacement forward and we f#*ked it big time - I know I will get all the Ohalpin lovers saying he was the answer but blind freddy could see that once he started to kick a few they would start to put better defenders on him and that would be the end of him

If we dont find a forward on the off season I bloody well hope that he returns as a forward - He could always pinch hit in the ruck if form drops -

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