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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:44 pm 
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chubbyruss wrote:
Just got home.

!@#$%& disgrace

The game was over after 10 minutes into the 1st qtr.

!@#$%& if i know what's wrong with them

Cant !@#$%& kick- I have been saying it for years



And we continue to draft and trade for players that can't kick! :banghead:


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:54 pm 
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WTF, I am lost for words and too shattered to vent, and we all thought last week was bad. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :hitcomputer: :hitcomputer: :hitcomputer: :hitcomputer:

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:56 pm 
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bluegirl72 wrote:
Dominator_7 wrote:
Call me fickle... Call me what you want, but I will not attend another game this year until the team give me reason to believe that they actually give a sh*t... The last 5 weeks have been an absolute disgrace to this Club....


I will be going..but not exactly looking forward to Coll v Carlton.
I reserve the right to leave at quarter time if I wish.


Great minds think alike... :grin:


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:56 pm 
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Have to get rid of this coach. He is hopeless.

Players aren't putting in but isn't it the coach who is supposed to get them up? Players aren't putting in bec they lose heart early in games bec the game plan doesn't work.

We played with Robbo as our sole fwd for about 90% of the first half. During that period nobody kicked it to him. Everytime our mids had the ball fwd of centre they looked up and saw robbo and then decided to go short to F50 instead, where upon they proceeded to turn it over about 5 times in the first quarter alone.

All the while Hendo plays on a wing/HB, and Judd sometimes replaces Robbo as the FF. What a joke of a fwd structure.

I bet the Sydney defenders shat themselves when they saw this fwd structure LOL

Discgraceful fwd structure/game plan. It is non existent.

In terms of players, well I think it is fair to say Jamo is cooked, dragged to FF late in game says it all; AJ having 2nd year blues pardon the pun; Simmo shocking again his last month has been poor; Walker has made no +ve impact on this side since he came back from injury; Betts hasn't had a touch since he got his $1M deal; Murphy and Gibbs have serious ability but show little to no genuine ferocity and hardness, Richmond's young gun Martin could teach these 2 no.1 picks a thing or two about hardness and making things happen, when was the last time these two actually did something hard and tough that turned the psyche of the game?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:57 pm 
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I went scuba diving at Flinders Pier today. Went in 15 min into the first quarter and the whole time down the bottom wondered how many are we getting done by now.

We lack heart and mongrel

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:58 pm 
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Have to get rid of this coach. He is hopeless.

Players aren't putting in but isn't it the coach who is supposed to get them up? Players aren't putting in bec they lose heart early in games bec the game plan doesn't work.

:clap: That's it in a nutshell!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:00 pm 
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Will Walker be suspended? to me it looked like he slid right into the bloke on that stupid friggin surface.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:03 pm 
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WOW just when i thought it couldnt get any worse after the Bulldogs game i have to watch that SHIT today. after the game i sat there and pondered and thought what the hell is wrong and my final thought was: WE ARE MENTALLY WEAK. When we lose we never just lose we always get hammered. We do not know how to turn things around when they start going wrong.

Here are some observations:

Andrew Walker is probably the most frustrating player in the AFL, such an enigma, capable of so much but continues to be a let down. He got absolutely hammered today. I duck for cover as i say this but definately a thought to use as trade bait and see what we can get.

Bryce Gibbs, i am sorry son i do like you but for f#$k sake any chance on you winning a hard ball and get above 2nd gear. He always looks to coast and is now getting found out bigtime.

Aaron Joseph must have nude photos of Ratten's misses because he needed to be dropped 5 weeks ago and continues to get slaughtered but keeps his spot in the side.

Bower and Jamo are big time out of sorts and needs to find some youch fast.

WE HAVE THE WORST SKILLS IN THE LEAGUE BY A COUNTRY MILE

ONE POSITIVE - Hampson just shows little glimpses of what he is capable.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:07 pm 
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I think this is a really important point. Other than Judd, we have no seasoned professionals who have knowledge of what it takes to succeed week in, week out, season after season. I have enormous respect for Simpson, and a lot of time for Scotland, but these guys are not leaders. They are guys that have worked very hard to be good contributors. Role models in terms of workrate, yes, but they make too many errors for them to be the guys that our young kids look up to or the guys that we turn to when we need to show some spine, hit some bodies and stop the hurt on the scoreboard.

For example, in the forwardline, we are crying out for somebody who has the authority to tell people where to run, who to block (has anyone seen a block laid in the forwardline this year?), when to kick for goal rather than attempt a difficult pass.

But the reality is that the lack of leadership on the field, whilst a massive problem, is very difficult to solve in a matter of weeks - the hope is that the coaching staff can fill the void until the list matures (see Hardwick coaching from the boundary line - all about morale, confidence, team psychology) but the fact is, since the Hawthorn game, we have played one impressive quarter of football (1st quarter vs Melbourne) - that's a seriously long trough of poor form - and I'm not hearing the sounds from anyone at the club that this is unacceptable, that we demand more in terms of effort and output. Not from Judd, not from Ratts, not from anyone. Lacklustre wins over WCE and Brisbane have allowed the club to avoid being pilloried until now, when it is almost too late. Now, only when the media scrutiny really kicks into action, may we start to get a response. That's not leadership, that's being led a merry flowering dance.

Ratts sat at today's press conference and effectively said to the media - 'well you guys didn't think we'd make the 8 at all! So lay off!' - stuck his chin out and tried to act like nothing is wrong. I've always liked Ratts, but whereas other clubs would have drawn a line in the sand, or signed a footy before the game and committed to making 100% effort, absolutely refusing to accept anything other than a big, fat W - we talk about predictions that were made months ago by outsiders.

We lack leadership on the field, yes, but it's symptomatic of a rudderless ship of a footy club at the moment.

[Insert Kennedy's 'don't think, do' half-time speech]

I'd be printing out a copy of the ladder, giving it to each player tomorrow and emphasising that this season is still well and truly alive, but that the time has come to lift, collectively, and work for each other.

Ok, end of rant.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:12 pm 
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Scooter has been busting a gut week in week out same with Simmo. They just have no direction they looks completely lost by the game plan or whatever - but they dont have a clue.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:20 pm 
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Tommy Alvin wrote:
I think this is a really important point. Other than Judd, we have no seasoned professionals who have knowledge of what it takes to succeed week in, week out, season after season. I have enormous respect for Simpson, and a lot of time for Scotland, but these guys are not leaders. They are guys that have worked very hard to be good contributors. Role models in terms of workrate, yes, but they make too many errors for them to be the guys that our young kids look up to or the guys that we turn to when we need to show some spine, hit some bodies and stop the hurt on the scoreboard.

For example, in the forwardline, we are crying out for somebody who has the authority to tell people where to run, who to block (has anyone seen a block laid in the forwardline this year?), when to kick for goal rather than attempt a difficult pass.

But the reality is that the lack of leadership on the field, whilst a massive problem, is very difficult to solve in a matter of weeks - the hope is that the coaching staff can fill the void until the list matures (see Hardwick coaching from the boundary line - all about morale, confidence, team psychology) but the fact is, since the Hawthorn game, we have played one impressive quarter of football (1st quarter vs Melbourne) - that's a seriously long trough of poor form - and I'm not hearing the sounds from anyone at the club that this is unacceptable, that we demand more in terms of effort and output. Not from Judd, not from Ratts, not from anyone. Lacklustre wins over WCE and Brisbane have allowed the club to avoid being pilloried until now, when it is almost too late. Now, only when the media scrutiny really kicks into action, may we start to get a response. That's not leadership, that's being led a merry flowering dance.

Ratts sat at today's press conference and effectively said to the media - 'well you guys didn't think we'd make the 8 at all! So lay off!' - stuck his chin out and tried to act like nothing is wrong. I've always liked Ratts, but whereas other clubs would have drawn a line in the sand, or signed a footy before the game and committed to making 100% effort, absolutely refusing to accept anything other than a big, fat W - we talk about predictions that were made months ago by outsiders.

We lack leadership on the field, yes, but it's symptomatic of a rudderless ship of a footy club at the moment.

[Insert Kennedy's 'don't think, do' half-time speech]

I'd be printing out a copy of the ladder, giving it to each player tomorrow and emphasising that this season is still well and truly alive, but that the time has come to lift, collectively, and work for each other.

Ok, end of rant.


Intelligent, considered rant Tommy. :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:22 pm 
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The players in the age group where they should be leaders are all flakey. Their good is good but they dont produce it enough. Most cant even manage a whole game of good form. That is our problem. You look at the players at teh top teams who were drafted between 2000 and 2004 and they are good reliable players. Unfortunately for us only Judd is reliable at carlton. Scotland and Simpson almost reliable and the rest flakey.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:25 pm 
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Ultimately, other than smashing them last year, Sydney are a much better side than us. Have been for a long time and were again today.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:31 pm 
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And now Ratten is talking us up as if that was actually a good performance. Apparently that 'come-back' is the thing to take out of it. I must have tuned in to the wrong game. How stupid do I feel! :banghead: :banghead:

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:34 pm 
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:38 pm 
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I looked at our side on paper and thought this was our best fwdline of the year with Hendo who has taken some steps lately and Waite back, but then Ratten that genius of a coach puts Robbo to FF one out for the whole first half and plants the slow Hendo on a wing/HB.

You need to explain this move/set-up ratten !

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:40 pm 
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Ultimately, other than smashing them last year, Sydney are a much better side than us. Have been for a long time and were again today.


Wrong. We have the better side. The Swans are coached better. No way would Roos put up with some of those efforts out there today.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:40 pm 
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Hate to say 'I told you so' but...................... I posted this 5 days ago.


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Based on our last 5 games,.............. I really don't see us winning this one.

But you know what - I don't really care. A win would just disguise the fact that we are completely and utterly clueless out there.

Week in, week out, we match our opponents with Clearances, Possessions and inside 50's....... yet we dish up amateurish football barely worthy of VFL status.

Going forward, we have no idea.
Sticking Setanta in the forward line and hope he can take a contested mark is about all we've got at the moment. Far too often I would see Yarran, Betts and Jeff no-where-near setanta, ready to take the spoil.

I didn't really see the value of sticking Hendo down back either. Not when your 50points down.

Is anybody teaching Setanta how to push off and lead? Cause he doesn't do it.

It's predictable football from the coaching staff at the moment. If we're down by 20+ points, we flood up field and then hope to attack running up the ground in a soccer style format.
Far to often, turn overs are occurring due to the fact we have nobody up the ground to receive. It happened in the Freo game too and it was the main reason we lost that match.

So.......... what now for the Sydney match? Drop Setanta and bring in Waite.......... what difference does it make if we don't have a structured set-up that the players understand.
Shit-Can me all you want,.......... but the entry into our forward line says it all......... we are completely clueless!


Setanta needs to go to the Bullants and learn how to push off his opponent and lead into space.

Lappin (is he not our forwards coach?) needs to show some form of improvement in the remaining games or otherwise..... Piss Off! It's de-javu from last year, only this time he can't blame it on an 'erratic' Fevola stuffing it up......... DO SOMETHING - SHOW SOMETHING! For god sake, anything will do at this point in time.




Fun times ahead people............. There needs to be some SERIOUS changes at this club. From board members to players......... nobody is safe.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:41 pm 
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Elusive Turtle wrote:
Only got to listen to the last quarter and a bit, sounded like that was a good thing.

Was Hendo injured? didnt hear his name i dont think & he only had like 4 possies.
Sounds as though we have alot of passengers. Not many showin heart.

Walks looks to be out for a few from the head high bump.

Hammer sounds to of presented well but i doubt he can be a future fwd so why persist? He cant kick consistently.

The three small fwds arent firing anymore and havent for like a month....either drop one or play one up the ground........

Dont know if this is silly but we should try Gibbs fwd ala Goddard......is a decent size, can take a strong grab & is a beautiful kick


He was played out of position from early in game, on a wing/across HB for crying out loud.

Stupid ratten

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Currently the Carlton FC website has an article "Blues starting to regain confidence"
this is followed up by.....CARLTON coach Brett Ratten says the lack of confidence that has plagued his side for the past month may finally be over, despite a 39-point loss to the Sydney Swans at Etihad Stadium.

THIS IS THE ISSUE.
He thinks today was acceptable!!!!!

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