it's true mate I just hate when we lose a few games people always go back to their old fav Carrazzo and sink the boot in, he's not even my fav player I just think someone has to stick up for possibly the best team player we have (at least according to Ratts but what would he know?).

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Nah, thanks for the advice but I'm just giving my opinion.
If any of the sooky la la's on this site dont deal with it or think I have some sort of agenda, that's their problem. At the end of the day, it's a game of footy, not the Middle East peace talks.

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That's actually not true. Against StKilda Carrots had his best ever game, by completely taking Dal Santo out of the game. Carrots also had one of his lowest possession counts for the year, but used it well.
Against the Melbourne he took Davey out of the game. Against West Coast it was Hurn.
Last week, he, and the team, were slaughtered by Harvey in the first quarter, but quelled his influence after that. Carrazzo's value to the team is in tagging a dangerous opposition player out of the game, which he has done well this year (particularly since the StKilda game, prior to that he was not nearly as good).

On Saturday night however, he went back to his old bad habit of chasing kicks and burning them. Meanwhile his man Barlow, was best on ground with 4 goals. It was a completely different game to those which he has played for at least the last 6 weeks, when he has actually been of value to the team.

That is a good summation. Andrew should not be receiving handpasses and delivering into the forward line - his foot disposal is too unreliable. As a tagger, shutting blokes down and getting inside ball and farming it out - those are his roles.

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"our electorate seeks less to be informed and more to be validated." Sad times.

Having read most of the posts I think this could have all been avoided if we had kicked straight for goal. 2.12 in the first half is a disgrace. To have 14 shots we must have been doing a few things right.

We lost Murphy, played a man down for the whole game, kicked 2.12 in the first half and lost by a goal and a bit.

When you miss the first few shots at goal the next player to have a shot tightens up a bit because he knows we really need to to go through. He misses and it's worse for the next bloke. This is not just our club it happens on the odd occasion to other teams aswell.

Having said that the really good sides still manage to ge the job done. We are yet to be a really good side!

Kruez going down is terrible, here's hoping we dont rush him back. He's got another 10 years in that number 8 Blues jumper. I think we are in a pretty good position to replace him though. I think Hampson should get next crack.

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Just a little something from the local paper here in sunny Perth.

Under the heading "Sublime Dockers on another planet" (What the? making reference to us being sponsered by Mars)

In a small section commenting on the umpires efforts for the match it states
"Reasonable job done by Donlon, Meredith and Mollison but Carlton probably got the better of the deal".

I'm not blaming the umpiring for the loss that was of our own doing. But the lack of advantage that cost us a goal was just one instance when we certainly didn't get the better of the deal.

Oh well you get that supporting anyone other than the weagles or the purple mob living in the West.

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Anthony Hudson (a Geelong supporter) on SEN this morning said we got killed by the umps. It's nice to know that neutral supporters can recognise this.

Brett Thornton is the one that people should be slamming, he is the most selfish player at Carlton.... just gets rid of the ball so he doesnt get caught with it and nearly always sets his team mate up to get tackled. He is too busy complaining about others not doing something or whinging to the umpire.

PULL YOUR HEAD IN THORNTON

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Matty Kruzer you star!

I imagine Thorton spending the rest of his careers in the two's.
You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.
Hooray for Hollywood !!

Yeah, apart from the fact that he didn't play on Barlow at any stage of the game but hey let's pluck the most effective player on the ground out and make him Carrot's opponent to make the story better shall we??

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Really, who played on Barlow then? In the centre square, there was Jacobs/Thornton - Sandilands, Judd - McPhee, Gibbs - Pavlich, Carrazzo and Barlow just floating around in there? (obviously there were rotations, but that was essentially it)

I was pretty sure Carrazzo was on Pavlich (I watched on TV) and from what I saw, Gibbs was on Barlow.

Anyway, I have no problems with the view you put forward apart from that part levendi.

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He had 3 inside 50's (just over 5% of our total of 55) for one goal assist compared to Simpsons 5 for 0, Gibbs' 5 for 1 and Walker's 6 for 0. I suggest you get your facts straight rather than make things up to suit your argument.

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Have you thought that maybe the entries of Simpson and co were good entries but weren't converted, hence their goal assists weren't very high? I've just demonstrated that the stats you've used in your argument are very shallow and can be taken in a number of ways.

This will be my last post on the matter; I know you will want to have the last say so I'll leave it to you.

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"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch

Conversions and assists aside, you said above his kicking inside 50 so often last night was to the detriment of the team. He had 3 inside 50's and AT LEAST one (possibly all three going by your theory) of them resulted in a shot at goal. Like I said, next time get your facts straight instead of making stuff up to suit your argument.

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Somehow...
I feel dirty.

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dane's trolling again

Anyone see the exchange between Thornton and Simpson when Sandilands marked in the goalsquare?

Thornton turned to Simpson and suggested he help out by punching. Simpson turned to Thornton and suggested he get [REDACTED]. Interesting.

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"I had to eat"

Was Thornton's reaction that bad though? His look was one of helplessness rather than anger I thought.

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Watch it again - Simmo actually mouths something first then Thornton responds.

They both could have agreed that Sandilands is a flowering behemoth and left it at that. Not even Dustin Fletch could've stopped him.

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This might sound extreme in the context of alleged sexual assault, drunken violence and a drug trafficking charge...

What?!? But isn't Fletcher the greatest full-back ever to play the game?