Warnock and Brock for 2nd rounder you will be crazy not to accept!

This is the funniest thing I've read in ages.
Nothing like a good belly laugh to get you past a few losses.

The part about 8 weeks is a rumour and not confirmed. Yes Brock hurt his knee at training last week. As far as we know it may only be a 1-2 week injury and he may be fit for the Brisbane game so let's not jump to conclusions based on a twitter rumour.

SQUAWK !

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Stuff it - go the cyborg option regardless.
Can't cost anymore that than Iraq guy or Iran or Israel or whatever
his name is - and he doesn't even know how to play the game.

Ok - so the same lame football department traded #25 for Hendersen and pick 12...

Not every trade is going to be successful. Will the McLean trade be a success? Time will tell. At the moment it isn't. It may be in 8 weeks time or next year or never.

I don't mind a football department that has a vision and then tries to make that vision a reality.

The great football departments get it right (or get lucky and then get it right).

The same type of poster lambasting the McLean trade would have traded Jordan Russell to Port for a 3rd rnd pick as he was no good, kept Fev as he was a star and traded a second rnd pick for Warnock...

Have your opinions by all means but if it was that easy then anybody could run a football club...

Maybe you can!

Man that is too funny!!!

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Ratten just said on One Week At A Time that Brock might need surgery (sounds like a clean up) but with the week off, he'll only miss a couple of games.

Interestingly, he also said the MC currently believes Brock & Hadley can't play in the same team...

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[quote="aboynamedsue"]Ratten just said on One Week At A Time that Brock might need surgery (sounds like a clean up) but with the week off, he'll only miss a couple of games.

Interestingly, he also said the MC currently believes Brock & Hadley can't play in the same team

Completely disagree. Reckon they can both do well in the Bullants

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Absolutely no way. Warnock was and will be a terrific investment IMO. And why would you give up on the Brock trade so early?

Even if both deals end up being a bust, you give yourself a chance to come out ahead in the deal. You don't sell when stocks are low.

It's official for Brock. Arthroscopic surgery on the knee and out for four weeks.

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Whilst I don't believe Brock was worth a 1st rounder, I agree it's too early to give up hope that both he and Warnock can be useful for us in the future.

Warnock has good skills, good mobility and is only 23 years old. A great deal of development and upside left in him.
If our rehab staff can work their wonders with Brock over the next six months and get him to an acceptable state of fitness and mobility that allows him to contribute he can be a handy addition next year and beyond.

I am happy to give 206 ample time, I am pretty sure Sandilands took a fair while to make it.

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Actually, cancel that, I checked his stats and seems he did well from 20 onwards? So, Ok, bad calls by CFC

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McLean would struggle to get a game at Melbourne. He certainly wouldn't ahead of Jones or Moloney. He has been injury prone all his career and is a player who absolutely doesn't benefit from the game getting faster. Melbourne didn't try very hard to keep him and we went very early with the trade for a first rounder in the last decent draft until post GC and GWS. Ratts and Riley have both coached him so you wonder how they could get it wrong, but serious Melbourne watchers didn't see him as being part of their future. At best we have given up too much. At worst we have recruited yet another player from another club who won't play 50 games for us. Same as Hadley, perhaps Warnock, Saddington, Chambers, McLaren, Ackland, probably Johnson etc etc. The problem with this one is we gave up a really high draft choice. Maybe he will come good but the signs are bad and our track at recruiting from other clubs is ordinary. If sides don't fight to retain players then they probably aren't worth recruiting. The draft is really hard, but recruiting from other clubs should be easy. I am sure we could give a definitive report on most players on our list and wouldn't be far off the mark. We need the sort of infrastructure at the club that ensures we know all there is to know about guys from other clubs so we don't get players who won't make an impact and we don't give up too much to get too little.

When you recruit experienced players from other clubs, it is not good enough to shrug your shoulders and say it is okay when we get it wrong. McLean had played 96 games, that's a fair audition, should be no doubt about his capacity to play his part. Unfortunately it is the exact scenario many Melbourne watchers predicted.

As I said earlier; the ironically sad part of the deal is that Melbourne used our pick 11 to snare Jordan Gysberts who is already a young gun; and a ball magnet with real running ability.

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We would've taken Lucas at #11.

Only cazzesman knows who we would've then taken at #12.

brock only needs to play a couple of good games in finals (freeing up judd) for the investment to have been worthwhile

Jimmy Plunket played a couple of good finals.
I think McLean would need to make a significant contribution to a Carlton flag or play 100 games for us and have a couple of top 5s in the b&f for the trade to be seen as a good decision. Gysberts form (or whoever we would have got) might colour people's judgement over the next ten years too.

McLean & Warnock will both be fine.