pros

lucas
bower back
hendo

cons

kruez
you negative supporters are a pack of cauliflower and have no place supporting Carlton.

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dane's trolling again

you need to pull the head out of whereever it is Dane
There are some serious issues down at Royal Parade
And they need to be addressed

Pros:
Henderson
Russell
The great Judd
Lucas
I thought AJ was good

Cons:
Waite shows no leadership for a guys that been at the club for nearly 10 seasons
Walkers disposal was awful and some of his efforts in the packs were very very soft. If you watch him closely he doesn't put his body on the line. His eyes always leave the ball when in a pack.
Freo are more advanced then us as a team
Always hearing excuses that we are young and still developing - thats a major cop out
I still can't believe we traded that pick 11 for Mclean
Injury to the big Kruise - heart breaking

If I am not mistaken, this is not the first time this has happened.

I don't want to initiate anything but has anyone thought that maybe Judd is not respected by some team members?

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Bulldogs captain Steve Mortimer stood up to address his troops before they ran out. ''I'm a proud c---,'' he told them, ''I'm a winner, I wish myself a good g...ame, I wish everyone a good game. Let's get out there and f---ing bash them

The other issue which is a con for me is the selection of the team

Hampson should have played not because Kreuzer went down

his form has been good and he would have been our best weapon against Sandilands.

Why was Armfield picked ahead of Grigg when Murphy was out.
Grigg could have done a job for us in the middle. Armfield is a defender. Dumb
And why was Robinson dropped. He has been on our best half a dozen the last month. Totally unbelievable.
he woud have been handy in such a physical contest

Dane, I'm not sure the reason why you respond that way to posts you don't agree with.
It will only draw further unattractive replies resulting in an unsightly slanging match. Surely that's not what you want? Or is it?


My pros

Like BV, I love the way Hendo goes about his work. He works his butt off like his skipper and leaves nothing in the tank.

Garletts consistency in his defensive efforts. He's a smart player with a very bright future I reckon.

Judd had 30 disposals with 11 contested possessions despite being absolutely mauled with no protection from the umps or his team mates which was disgraceful IMO.

I won't be so harsh on 21yo Gibbs. 24 disposals, 10 contested possessions, 6 tackles, 5 inside 50's is ok in my book.

Cons.

Jamo good defensively but not enough offensive work from him. He can do much better than 3 kicks, 1 handball, 2 marks, 1 tackle.

I'm really not sure what Thornton brings to the team anymore.

Our scoring conversion rate just not acceptable.

hey keogh - I reckon Robinson isn't up to AFL standard

Pro

JR bounced back
PB back
Lucas
Hendo trying his heart out and getting some reward

Con
Kreuzer
AJ - a man's gotsta know his limitations
and the big one for me - too much peeling off and looking for a cheap one over the top instead of shepherding. Gibbs, Simpson and Carrazzo in particular, I am looking in your direction (did anyone else see when Juddy was running toward 50, and simpson could have shepherded to let him take the shot and instead tried to demand the ball - I love my boy simmo, but geez it was disappointing)

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Cheerio to my friends KN, BC, TT, GP, DK, AE, MS, SC, TC, JL, MO & LF

Every fan site has one of your type. It's sad and embarrassing but I guess the carlton family have to stick together. Xmas lunch this year will be interesting uncle Dane. Let's hope you have a long afternoon nap and go easy on the McWilliams cream sherry

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

Con
Any comment from posters stating that any 23 or under year old not being up to AFL standard (and currently playing AFL). FFS these guys are still developing and learning and anything is possible. They will improve.

I thought you would all learn from Russell.

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Delulio is a member of TISM

POTY without doubt

Pros

Hendo, Lucas, Bower.

Cons

Blown our chance at a top 4 spot, and now will battle to make the 8. I thought this was our soft part of the draw ? How have we fallen so far so fast ?

Why play the boundary ? Did that get us to where we were ?

Leading Teams - time to flower off. Geelong suited your style, but not this bunch of softcocks

Hadley . Please play Grigg for the rest of the year. I know he can't kick but can get the ball, and he can cover some ground and throw his weight around.

Just when we had our injury list down to an all time low, and looked to have "depth", its all gone pear-shaped. Setanta's had a relapse, Murph could be a crock, and Kreuz could be gone

Just when I thought that Ratts and the panel had turned the corner........

Pro: lots of tackling
AJ
Hendo
Brandy in Coffee

Cons: Sea shanty stuck in head on way home...argghh
Had to listen to a supposed fan giving it to the boys as they went
up the race at end of game.
Juddy and Thornton gave it right back to him.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Admittedly I posted that last night when I was still hot. Perhaps a bit harsh. But gee I'm still terribly disappointed with our last 2 weeks.

Watching it on tv, especially the first half, it just had a feel of 'the wheels are starting to fall off'. Hopefully we can sort our shit out over the break. We absolutely need to otherwise we won't make finals.

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We are on our way back...

Bluegirl.............you'll have to get a job as Ruddy's Spin Doctor. Reckon the Baggers are in just as much trouble !

Seriously folks, keep a bit of perspective, the facts are:
* we lost to a top 4 team, flag contender
* margin just 9 points
* won just about every key stat that matters
* lost our #1 ruck in Q1
* lost our #2 mid before the game


Pros:
* Garlett is out an out a star in the making. His work when he doesn't have the ball is mind blowing. He chases and chases and chases, repeat effort again and again. Wow ... was really impressed. Well done Jeffy.
* Hendo took contested marks ... been waiting for that. His confidence must grow from that game. And he converted.
* Betts was on fire, had a great game and was rewarded in the 4th
* Joseph turned it around, as did Army ... well done boys, especially AJ, his job on Ballantyne was top notch

Cons:
* Kreuz ... tragic
* Freo occupied the corridor all night and pushed us wise. Team needs a strategy to regain the control of the corridor. Going wide undermines our whole forward strategy.
* disappointed by Carraz's efforts
* when will the players start blocking for each other ... not just sometimes, all the time
* conversion, kick straight and this is a win ... we could have applied the scoreboard pressure early and we didn't

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"It was like calling your ex girlfriend after a night on the booze, just a really bad decision".

Nup...piece of cake Mil...Just run a three minute ad campaign with a close up of Abbot's face and the background song is 'Mad world.'
(best way to spin on K-Rud is leave him out of it)

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

pros

hendo
thornton
russell
bower

cons

gibbs - is so over rated by us, he is an average player

judd - can someone help this bloke out, dont blame opposition players goin at him, i would and we just watch this shit week in week out, pathetic, we should target there taggers from now on, not some pissant watts when we play the likes of melb bc he is young.

dispoasal was bad

reluctant to shoot for goal, within 50 have a ping

we just arnt good enough yet and hopefully we make the 8, feel like we are just making the numbers up, 2 weeks ago i thought top 4 how quick was that slide

aussies and carlton losing in 1 night, makes for a shit weekend

John McEnroe voiceover......You cannot be serious!!!!!

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Pros:
AJ - Cant believe people are putting him as a con, played a great defensive role on Ballantine.
Russell - Keeps on getting better and better, future All Australian.
Simmo - Gives his all every week, shame he cant reward his efforts with his kicking for goal though.
Army - Great drive and never seems to be beaten 1-on-1
Judd - Gave it his all.
Hendo - Biggest plus of the game. You can just see he will be a gun. Really impressed with his natural strength, never gets pushed off the line of the ball.
Betts - Played well, always does.

Cons:
Kruezer - Shattered, nearly cried.
Gibbs - I know the stats might say he played a good game, but I thought he had a shocker. Seems to coast to much for me and he banged the ball on the boot for points three times when he actually had more time. Needs to impose himself more.
Hadley - Absolute shocker, bring back Brock.
Umpires - What the hell is going on with the advantage rule, robbed us of some momentum in the first by not allowing advantage for Carrazo's goal. They have killed us two weeks in a row.
Team - As a team we played dumb, football and allowed them too many easy goals. Think we need to go back to basics.