I reckon you weren't even there.

pros

Hendo
Simmo
Judd ( I mean @#$%&! me dead just @#$%&! hold him all night)
The attempt to tackle - last week we didn't, this week we did but it wasn't enough


Cons

Kruise - anyone hammering carlton just think we had @#$%&! T-bird having to ruck tonight - gee we lost.
Kicking for goal - should have been 4 goals up at 1/4 time
their easy goals - too many easy ones from our soft turnovers.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Pro-
Henderson. It was great to see him get value from his hard work.
Bower. Great to see him back.
Lucas. Fumbles too much below his knees still but love his composure.
Jamo. Just does his job.
Judd. Gives everything he's got against enormous odds.
Kreuzers unfortunate injury creates an opportunity for Hammer. Let's hope he capitalises.
Simmo

Cons-
Some of our experienced players. Zero leadership and failing to get that scumbag McPhee off Judd. It was embarrassing to see a 1st year player (Kane Lucas) stick up for Juddy when no one else did.
Carrazzo. Back to chasing the cheap disposal. To see Judd stream out of the middle and then see Carrazzo run 15 metres ahead, call for the handball and proceed to turn it over. Selfish football. He should have called Juddy through and shepherded. Did the same thing several times. I'd hoped the MC had got that out of his game.
Waite. Undisciplined and stupid football. Again.
Gibbs. Playing well below his best. Doesnt work half as hard as the great man.
AJ. Does a great stopping job but once again playing outside his limitations. He needs to just do his job and forget the frills.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Pro- Bower, Simpson, Lucas

Hendersen great effort but right now Setanta is our best bet at full forward. For all his faults he straightens us up

Cons- Freo were average
An average coaching effort would have won that game
You can not play Yarran, Houlihan, Carrazzo in the same side if they don't tackle
There is barely any point playing Garlett, Yarran, Houlihan if the ball isn't delivered deep front and square to create crumbing opportunities
Armfield was terrible. I like what he brings to the side but when he is dishing off handballs instead of run and risk football, you may as well play another inside player
Generally riskless coaching.
Thornton always let's you down when it is crunch time. We were 8 points down when he gave away that 50 meter penalty. He is wonderful player when we are 10 goals down but I guess that was how he learnt his football
Houlihan great year but it was tough tonight and as usual that when he disappears.

Hendersen has to learn not to lose his feet......

I reckon you weren't even there.

Absolutely right. Live in Perth, it's a bit hard to get there.

Lucky for them I'm not there

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We are on our way back...

disagree a little on this one...he was very quiet in the 1st half, but showed up in the second. A number of times he actually repelled a Freo forward thrust and got the ball back to our forward line.

Pro:
Hendo
Walks and Russell off Half Back.
Beating Pavlich
Thornton did himself and the club proud

Cons:
do i even need to say it :(:(:(:(

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#23: Lachlan Henderson

lucky why - you think they'd stop and listen to what you have to say?


I agree with BV on Carrots - gee I was pissed off with him tonight

I disagree with BV on Jammo - doesn't bring enough to the table for mine.

for those bagging white 0- funny how the run has dried up since he's gone... He went down the guts

Lucas is a ripper but - I do not think he fumbles below his knees, rather he is aware when contact is coming and just doesn't want it to come - fair enough - new kid - will be a @#$%&! ripper.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

PROS
After sitting thru last weeks debacle I couldn't go this week
Hendo, has a way to go, but a really smart hard worker. May not be tall enough for a key forward but will play a lot of games for Carlton
Didn't get Voss as coach

CONS
Judd getting mauled and no-one helping him
Losing Big K
Carazzo is a fave of mine, but his disposal was awful tonight
The last two weeks should have cemented our finals spot but instead we have negated the great wins against Geelong and Saints
Not enough heart, not enough leadership, too much bickering
Waite too laconic up forward, might be time to use him in defence. I would have used him as the 2nd ruckman tonight. He would have got away from Bradley and maybe been able to create something
Too many selfish footballers
Thornton hasn't matured, after almost ten years he still looks to blame his team mates or the umpires when things don't go his way. Why blame Simmo when you get outmarked by Sandilands
Coaching panel doesn't seem to operate well when we are the hunted
Big test for the rest of the season. We have to start beating sides we are expected to beat
We will find plenty of excuses but we were just not good enough when it really counted, had too many passengers, too little cohesion, the scoreboard flattered us
Gibbs was okay but he is our second best player. He needs to start taking games by the scruff of the neck when Judd is down.

Agree with that. He is a good spoiler, but he needs to start getting more of the ball. Against the Sts he was fantastic and gave us run, but he has gone back into his shell. Needs to back himself more

on Gibbs


I hate to say it but I fear Keogh may be right - he reminded me of Houla tonight (no, not Keogh). So we may get 200 odd games but

I think if he plays his career like tonight I will always be a tad disappointed (not that that means damn thing.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Pro

Hendo must play every week

Lucas betts garlett
Russell

Judd

Cons
Special K -get well soon Matthew
Lack of scoreboard pressure 0 7 first quarter game almost gone
2.12 at half time game gone
Murphy
Handball happy to player in worse position
Refuse to go down corridor
No leadership except for Judd
Immature unprofessional in the last 2 weeks
Mentally weak
A really poor last month -3 losses where we got poor starts
A bad month from the coaching staff
In danger of missing the finals
Supporters deserve better

Cons - fickle reactionary supporters

Ignoring the result of the game - if someone had said to you earlier in the week that murphy wasnt playing and kreuzer would do a knee in the first quarter against freo/saandilands, would you really be expecting a win?

As soon as kreuzer went down we were gone for the night

I think Thornton should play forward permanently. He is no match winner but i noticed everytime he is there, he has a presence. He is composed and a good mark for his Size. He is also kicked multiple Goals everytime he had a cameo there for few minutes...



Cons:


Playing Wide and kicking the ball inside 50's to Wide areas that limit our chances to Score Goals and makes it easier for the defenders to spoil. Its so frustrating to see Carlton's refusal to Kick direct and in front of Goals. I believe this is one major reason why we have fallen off and are struggling to find goals and kick more than 12 goals a game.

He kicks more accurately for goal than out of defence! I would consider leaving him up there for a quarter to see what happens in these sort of situations.

Yet another con:
Leadership. Been thinking it all season, but we just seem to leave it up to Judd to step up.

pros...

henderson 'clunked' a couple.
bower makes good decisions and runs staight.
lucus belongs.
simpson tries from start to finish.

cons...

obviously kreuz.
hadley makes bad decisions.
scotland is turning into a crab again.
walker, russel and carrazzo's disposal under pressure is woeful.

observations...

gibbs' decisions and execution, especially under pressure, are required in defence.
waite needs to work with his fellow forwards to create space if he is going to play as our '!st option big man'.
why wasn't carrazzo responsible for barlow?
i'm getting sick of coaches answer questions with statistics... we can look at those too mate! tell us something we don't know.

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If it was a watermelon it would've drowned him!

Pros:

Garlett's 2 goals.

And his chasing.

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THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

Pros
Henderson tried all night and showed abit
Lucas
I also give a bit wrap to the guy in the crowd who had a go at the umpires, got the message across even though they did pull away the microphone
Russell

cons
terrible kicking for goal
Kreuzer's injury
Carrazzo
Armfield's turnovers
Umpires, when did the advantage rule not apply when near goal?
AJ


just a pathetic effort.

Agree

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To me that's a cop out. Doesn't excuse poor decision making, even poorer skill execution, lack of leadership and general footy smarts. I mean FFS, could not one team mate knock McPhee on his arse? It's a small example but that no one even bothered to do that speaks volumes to me.

I'm absolutely livid at our last 2 weeks. If that makes me a 'reactionary supporter' then so be it. I will not put up with those pathetic displays. We should be a helluva lot better than that.

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We are on our way back...

you are a grade a idiot.

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dane's trolling again

as above.

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dane's trolling again