He played poorly and has completely lost form. When he is in form he has value. He has played well for us this year.
I dont think anyone is saying he doesnt deserve to be dropped.

i have been happy with what he has done this year but the key for me is that its often the unexpected things that he does that is his good work......which makes me think that the basics are the things that are missing. And when you have an off game... you look very very ordinary.

the problem for me last night was that he didnt seem to compete very well.....regardless of the delivery... you have to make a contest...and i'm not sure if he knows how to contest when things aren't working..... if you know waht i mean.... natural players know where to put body pressure on etc....

I'd like to acknowledge that while he needs a spell, he was double teamed regularly in contests due to the up and under delivery he received. His read of the flight was off, and this made things worse.

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by all means call for him to be dropped

just leave out the stick references

the fun is over references

in fact the whole anti-Irish flavour. - Racism is the belief that race is a primary determinant of human traits and capacities.

He has played well

but his last 3 no and so drop him as a footballer

not because he is Irish and to busy dancing a jig and laughing his head off having a jolly old time while the rest of the side struggles.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

QFT. I agree he needs a spell, but it is flowered how people are against his because he is irish

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#23: Lachlan Henderson

I don't care where he comes from

he is a bad footballer who has been given a free ride simply because he is Irish

That's not being racist his errors are all to often over lookedand excused because of his back ground and it's just plain wrong

the number of times I have heard he has come a long way - he is the big improved which is all fair enough but he is coming from so far back that no amount of improvement could justify a spot on an AFL list ahead of others

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Tell that to Tim Lane who mentioned the fact that indigenous forwards had dominated this round.

Black people are faster than white people.

So anyone could do what he does?

So Ratts just gives him a go regardless of team needs?

So people in the press praising his efforts are saying it just cos he is Irish?

So when another player has a bad game its just a bad came but when Setanta does he is just shit?

And why the crap about having fun - implying he doesn't give a @#$%&!

and why didn't they stick with Aisake - I mean he was Irish too?

etc...

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

A free ride because he's Irish? What a load of shit! If that was true his brother would still be on the list.

Out of form that's all. He'll have a few weeks at the Bullants to rediscover it.

He had a shocker, as did most of his team mates. He is not getting a game because he is Irish, he is getting a game because we don't have anyone better. He has had two shockers against the Hawks and the Roos. But so did the whole team. We were flogged in the middle, our forward line was crowded and disposal into it was dreadful. He is a battler, but this season he has ben the best battler we have for the spot. I didn't think Waite was much better, and he also plays as a third forward and may actually be better value in defence. Certainly he would give much more than TBird as loose man down there. The problem that SB never realistically addresses is who you put there. So far SB has offered suggestions that the side needs a team full of McLeans !!!!. That Livo and Adam Hartlett would be better down there. The reality is we don't have anything approaching a star forward. Fish is coming off a knee reco and was only retained on he list because Fev went. He has great hands, but falls over every time he goes near the ball. Hendo is promising, smart and willing, but doesn't get much of the ball and is a work in progress. Big K, spent time up forward and didn't get near it. He is in ordinary form at the moment. It is hard to know what our plan is. Setanta plays very deep and doesn't lead. Is that instructions? Waite floats. Eddie becomes out lead up man. he has great hands but he is not a CHF. We need to use our mobility, spread the defence. We don't do that unless we win the ball in the middle.

Setanta struggled on Friday, but I am not sure that anyone replacing him would do any better. I think pour problems go way deper than full forward. We were flogged on Friday and had 15 players who lowered their colours. If we allow oppositions to flood our forward line we will struggle to kick goals.

So SB, what are your credible alternatives, and don't tell me it is some guy delisted 5 years ago or TBird because he once drifted forward without an opponent and kicked a goal, or Warnock because he is tall and can't take a mark. If you want to hate Setanta and delight in 'I told you so' every time he has a bad one. Give us a Credible alternative - Callan Beasy maybe?

Agree 100%. By the way, Kreuzer had another very poor game last night .... maybe he needs a rest.

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I think SB will settle for an Australian of non-Irish descent.

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STURDYISM!!

I'm more worried about our whole forward line set-up to be honest.

We never had any forwards at home on friday night so i dont know how we expected him to kick any goals at all.

We flooded up the ground much to much the other night. We won all the clearences the other night but when we looked up forward the was nobody home.......... hence the turn overs.

It's like Ratten is taking on a soccer formation game-plan sometimes and tries to have the whole team run it up at the same time. ???? I don't know.


Setanta didn't have a good one, but geez.......... can't really say he had much opportunity???

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Almost every team does this.

It doesn't work when players don't run.

Funnily enough.

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STURDYISM!!

Do you want a list of players that could have played on friday and done a better job

Wiggo
Fisher
Grigg
Hendo
Yarren
Maclean
Hammer
Warnock
Bower
Ellard
Anderson
Austin

Problem is with you and most others you still think the game is 6 6 and 6- it isnt
and the sooner the match committe realises this the better

You pick your best available 22
We fell into a trap of creating a monster up forward that is not capable of playing any where else we doing the same with Ohalpin

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Not at all - its stupid to even compare the two.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

oh dannyboy...the pipes, the pipes are calling.
BTW. I agree

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I dont think its all Setanta. I reckon the ball wasnt delivered to him as well as it has in the earlier games.

On Friday night it seemed that alot of the kicks into our forward 50 were bombed in there. Setanta as a forward I dont think is good enough to be able to out think his opponent in a pack situation. But, when we have an open forward line that allow's him to lead out, thats where he comes into the game.

Either opposition teams are flooding or all our forwards want to kick all the goals themselves.

I would love to see Setanta and the three amigo's the only ones in our forward 50, and then see how they all go with some space !!!!!!

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And you need to realise that the MC will decide when the fun is over. Until then, we'll just keep reading your disporportionately skewed tripe

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