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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:56 am 
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but Kroooooooooozer is not what he should be. he's great at the bullocking work in packs but he simply does not take enough contested marks, misses too many that a big man should take., every damn week.

You are so wrong and a termite who crawls out of the woodwork.

As proven by Michael Jezz agreeing with you.



ok u right, i just checked the stats and he has taked 12 marks average per game 8 of which are contested. he is dominating the air


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 3:38 pm 
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Michael Jezz wrote:
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but Kroooooooooozer is not what he should be. he's great at the bullocking work in packs but he simply does not take enough contested marks, misses too many that a big man should take., every damn week.



As sure as my arse points to the ground, he is a centre half forward. His marking and kicking kills will come to the fore at Centre Half Forward. We have great ruckman to take his place and running around half stuffed and being bullocked for 3 years isn't the best way to develop a young tall


Would love for that to be the case Jezz, but he has a very long way to go with his marking. He really hasnt shown anything in the way of bodywork when going for a mark. He doesnt try to use his size and strenth in his body at all when going for a mark, simply stands next to the opposition and jumps - consequently he fumbles or is spoilt due to pressure.

Has shown very little at all to suggest he could be a contested marking forward at all.

However he has all the tools so the coaches should get to it!


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 3:43 pm 
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If ever there were a week where it may be worthwhile including three rucks for a game to see how it would work (with one always playing in the forward line) it would be this next coming game against Sandilands.

Give Setanta the Podsiadly role where he doesn't have to be the #1 option in the forward line and where his defensive effort is applauded for a change.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:13 pm 
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Kruez will be a gem, but he needs a rest, Hammer should get a chance

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:03 pm 
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Kroezer will be fine. He has slowed a little of late, perhaps he does need a rest. He was so far ahead of where a 2nd year ruckman should be at the end of '09 that there is nothing to be concerned about. Will be a star.

The question of whether he could make a CHF is a valid one though, not just because of who he is as a player, but because of how desperately we need one. I have been one who has thought that he ultimately might become a CHF. Has the aerobic capacity ala J Brown, has natural football smarts, and is fabulous on the ground. As others have said, does need to improve his pack marking. Wonder if Kernahan has been doing any work with him? We could do worse than booking him in for some one-on-one sessions with the key forwards.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:09 am 
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sstormin123 wrote:
Michael Jezz wrote:
Springsteen wrote:
but Kroooooooooozer is not what he should be. he's great at the bullocking work in packs but he simply does not take enough contested marks, misses too many that a big man should take., every damn week.



As sure as my arse points to the ground, he is a centre half forward. His marking and kicking kills will come to the fore at Centre Half Forward. We have great ruckman to take his place and running around half stuffed and being bullocked for 3 years isn't the best way to develop a young tall


Would love for that to be the case Jezz, but he has a very long way to go with his marking. He really hasnt shown anything in the way of bodywork when going for a mark. He doesnt try to use his size and strenth in his body at all when going for a mark, simply stands next to the opposition and jumps - consequently he fumbles or is spoilt due to pressure.

Has shown very little at all to suggest he could be a contested marking forward at all.

However he has all the tools so the coaches should get to it!

Kreuzer is a good contested and overhead mark on the move, but we haven't seen him play a lot deep.

Kreuzer put a North opponent of the contest using his body to take an overhead mark after we cleared it from the backline.

A lot of our players were running under the ball for some reason.

Might have been feeling the pressure that was more perceived, than there, so they misjudged the flight of the ball all night.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 1:58 am 
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i didnt like when i think we were still 3 goals down in last and goldstein outmarked him near the boundary line. only saw it live but looked like he was in the contest but was outdone


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:12 am 
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TheGame wrote:
He just turned 21.


But has clearly gone backwards from last year so that doesn't really count does it? Last time I saw him live against the Hawks he seemed in a lot of discomfort running up the ground. Either that or he has a terrible gait which wasn't evident before. I wouldn't be surprised if he's carrying some sort of injury. Perhaps more than just a niggle but not enough to keep him out.....until now.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:13 am 
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bad thread.

gun.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:15 am 
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A lot of opposition supporters are comparing him to JF at the wobbles. I hope not.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:20 am 
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DIAMOTISM wrote:
A lot of opposition supporters are comparing him to JF at the wobbles. I hope not.


Kreuzers appetite for getting to contests and getting the footy is phenomenal.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:24 am 
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HELLAS BLUE wrote:
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He just turned 21.


But has clearly gone backwards from last year so that doesn't really count does it?


I reckon he has been awesome this year. McIntosh is a top ruckman.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:59 am 
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HELLAS BLUE wrote:
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He just turned 21.


But has clearly gone backwards from last year so that doesn't really count does it?


Hasn't gone backwards at all

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:41 am 
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Ok guys that's fair enough, you're entitled to your opinion. For mine he hasn't been anywhere near as good this year. He gets beaten in the ruck and he's not winning much ball around the ground. When he does win it, his possessions don't seem to really count for much. He isn't super skilled or anything like that. Someone mentioned that he has zero bodywork when going for his marks, I agree with this as well.

I still think he's injured.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:40 pm 
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I agree with others and have mentioned this as well, Kruezer needs a rest out of the ruck!
We have the break after the Freo game, so I believe Kruez should be played fp this week with an assessment after this. I am inclined to give him a rest in the FP and out of the ruck for next few.

Warnock & Jacobs to do the ruck work over the next 4-5 as well.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:57 pm 
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what a bullshit post
krueze is a champ
comes to play every week
LEADS OUR TACKLES
takes big pack marks often
if our team brought the same ethic krueze brought we wud never loose

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:36 pm 
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Juddment Day wrote:
what a bullshit post
krueze is a champ
comes to play every week
LEADS OUR TACKLES
takes big pack marks often
if our team brought the same ethic krueze brought we wud never loose




Spot on.
He works his ass off...
Big fella needs more credit.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:39 pm 
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
O'Hailpin would be better as the 2nd key forward, bring Hendo in and play them together.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:59 am 
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Youd like to be wrong so Im giving you what you wish you are WRONG!!!!

Experts are talking him up as AA this year maybe behind Jamar in my opinion a little premature, but to say Kreuzer is down and to highlight a supposed "negative" of his game suggests to me that You are down on form.

Number 8 is just a kid playing way ahead of himself at the moment.

Just enjoy his development so in five years time you can marvel at his greatness.

Gee Whiz!


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:57 am 
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He is the best of the 3 1st picks.

Give him a break.

1 loss and the wolves are out.

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