The club has no involvement with any aspect of how this site is run.

TP was shut down purely because of the BS that was prevalent at that time between certain posters that it made the forum a crap place to visit.

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

it's sometimes a fine line keogh, because freedom of speech is fine in principle, but it doesn't mean you can say whatever you like whenever you like and wherever you like.

Why not on TC or other forums (fora)? Well, the threat of legal action is one reason. If you are not a moderator, that risk may not worry you, but it is a reality which has to be considered. For example, TBV was threatened with legal action a number of times, and the threat was not idle.

Trying to find a middle ground is another reason. Some people don't mind caustic or sarcastic argument, others take it very personally, others find it boring. I can think of at least one person I've met and really like, but cringe at times over this person's posting style.

I wasn't really participating much at the time the TP closure happened, but I've never seen much point in the circular argument type thing.

That's where friends probably need to step in and have a word Headplant. Perhaps they don't realise how they are coming across on a forum. Perhaps point out to them that they wouldn't behave that way face to face so why the "keyboard fever"?

And just on the way people behave on this site, I've been racially taunted, told my opinion means nothing because I have a "soccer" username and basically been shouted down every time I offer my opinion on certain players. I also have my own personal stalker in Blue Ice/Kouta. I've copped it all and I'm still here so why don't you people grow some balls, suck it up and accept that's what goes on in these forums. If you can't hack it, move on!!

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You want the flame? Give us the marbles!!

you now have 5 that I know of sites that discuss Carlton BF CSC TC TBV SCE

I think you will find that the poster traffic is down on all of them

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If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

Where did your sense of humour go?

On the subject of this thread, i think we should all be grateful for the time the moderators put in to keep these sites user friendly for everyone that vists them and a annual donation of $$$ is well worth some thought.

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You heard it here first!

Fan forums aren't like Supermarkets, we're not competing for your business.

The number of forums is a blessing, each are different and everyone should be able to find one that caters for their style and needs.

Having said that, when moving forums its a good idea not to take the baggage from a previous one with you. I've already removed a few posts from this thread bringing up issues from CSC. Lets hope thats it.

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

Many Melbourne Victory fans are also Blues fans and you will likely find them in World Cup forums.


Go the Socceroos!

I've been a much less frequent visitor around here since the start of the season. The main reason for this is that I get frustrated that while it is 2010, some people just want to party like it's 2005! I mean, some posters are just desperate for McLean, Hendo, Hadley, Anderson, Warnock, etc etc to play a bad game so that then they can go on and on about how they knew that such and such a player was a dud.

In the end, I think the club is doing a lot of things right (not all of them... but even Geelong doesn't do everything right). This site was actually subtracting from my enjoyment of the game and the club because I knew that every time there was a turnover from any of the aforementioned players that I would have to read countless posts with the symbol, where Poster X was telling me about how they knew they had been right all along and said player was a spud.

So I now hover more infrequently, and usually on the Talking AFL board, where we can at least all agree that we hate St Kilda, Essendon*, Collingwood, and Hawthorn.

I've tried other sites, and don't really feel they offer anything better. I don't mind Big Footy... it is light hearted enough. For me personally, the problem with one of the other sites is that they let Melvey / Aido / Samboymolly dictate a lot of the conversation... and Melvey may well be the nicest guy on the planet for all that I know, but his negativity is something that just doesn't float my boat. That's a personal opinion rather than a knock on him.

Anyway, if I had to sum it up, I would just say that people change. As they do so, websites become more or less appealing to them. So I sort of recognise that I've probably changed, and that therefore TC isn't as exciting for me as it once was. I still enjoy reading posts by Cazz, Jimmae, Doc Sherrin, Kennyhunter, etc and log on at least a couple of times a week to see what is happening. I just don't hang around as religiously as I did.

My final appeal is just this... seriously to some of you guys out there - take a glass half full approach to supporting Carlton and see how much more enjoyable it can be. This is a really nice squad we've built, and there are some exciting times ahead. Just buckle in and enjoy the ride. We're not without a shot at the Premiership this year, and it's been at least 10 years since we can say that this has been the case. So I reckon it is worthwhile trying to savour.

There are no rival supporters visiting and you need them here - you need a Bomber supporter encouraging light hearted banter ad thought provoking discussion; banter and criticism is immediately bashed down.. to the detriment of supporters forums. It seems this forum is a forum for everyne to agree with one another and make it stale and boring.

i disagree

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*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Tolerance is a big thing.

If the Positive Petes could tolerate the Negative Nellies then we'd be well on our way to some positive change around here.

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The problem will be made. for the solution to be sold, to your face before your eyes, tolerance is now the new danger

I've met many negative Carlton supporters in the flesh, and they are as boring and annoying as any in print.
Nobody wants to hang around with someone who's always complaining and whinging. They are draining and depressing. Most of the time, they just like to hear themselves talk/read their own posts.

Nobody minds criticism if its constructive or accurate but constant carping is insufferable.

So the answer is no, I don't want to tolerate them.

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T E A M

Removing the unbalanced, incompetent and dishonest element from the mod room would be a good thing.

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There's so much I could say...

JR is shit.

Agreed. Should have been shot a lot earlier than the end of Series 2.

Thanks a LOT Doc............

would it KILL ya to give out a little "spoiler" alert...........?


kindest regards tommi

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that'siti'mnotchangingthistagain......!

Don't worry, I've resigned.